Two Plasma Interpretations of Portions of Revelation

Since posts on the subject of plasma cosmology and interplanetary interpretations of prophecy have already been written, in this post I will avoid expounding on particulars such as the sun darkened, moon turning to blood, hail mingled with fire, beasts, olive trees, thunderings and lightnings, etc. and focus on the new pieces of information I have received.

Even though I just said that — as an introduction, I will state here that it is my understanding that the prophetic narratives in scripture take as their template events that unfold in the heavens:  i.e. the movements of planets and their interactions with each other.  “Prophecy” is merely the description of planetary movements and plasma interactions.

The imagery in a prophetic story is imagery observed in the sky.  The mention of a “sword”, doesn’t mean a literal, physical sword floating around in outer space – but that there are planetary movements and plasma formations that, when seen from the perspective of Earth, create the image of a sword.

Prophecy is simply the movements of planetary bodies and the resulting plasma interactions, converted into a narrative that describe patterns that likewise play out in earthly evens.  Meaning that after the planets go through their described motions, fulfilling the elements of the prophecy every whit – the same story then plays out here on Earth.

The planets are not just big physical balls of gas and rock – but they are also the idea of what those planets mean – the planets being used as a way to represent a pattern of things taking place among mankind [or within yourself] as thought it is a physical event transpiring in the sky.

Mankind has a natural tendency or instinct to worship, which is tied to what happens in the heavens, among the planets. This is because human brain cycles are tied to the cycles of the heavenly bodies (planets, sun, comets, etc.), and when the planets are active, the urge to worship comes as a fanatical devotion.  This urge is as basic as our sexual urge and is a part of our natural state of existence [meaning atheism, like monogamy, is a more recent human invention].

When the heavens are active, the devil’s strategy is to direct that fanatical devotion in the wrong direction by introducing idolatry.  However, when the skies are asleep [like they are right now], the instinct to worship does not pull on us as greatly and so the devil works to suppress the urge to worship altogether.

Now — with that in mind, I want to introduce the following post as a new piece of information that I received with respect to two particular portions of the Book of Revelation.  In this post, I will not go into the planetary interpretations of the trumpet blasts, earthquakes, lightnings, moon turning to blood, the two witnesses, etc.  Nor will I go into the various earthly interpretations that these events may also represent.

Piece of Information #1:  When the calamities associated with the Book of Revelation begin to unfold, mankind is going to respond one of two ways. 

A Planet and a Plasma Column Descending to the Earth:

And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.  And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices:

The one who sits on the throne is the planet known as God, or Elohim.  His throne is a pillar or column of a plasma channel that reaches down to the earth.

Four Planetary Pass-bys Affect the Unrighteous of the Earth:

And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him.

A planetary body passes by that appears white in color, with a plasma discharge resembling a bow at the South pole and a crown at the North.

And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill on another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

A planetary body passes by that appears red in color, with a plasma discharge resembling a sword.

According to Velikovsky, “The Roman god Mars was pictured with a sword, and he became the god of war.  Of this same sword Isaiah spoke when he predicted the repetition of the catastrophe, a stream of brimstone, flame, storm, and reeling of the sky.  The ancients classified the comets according to their appearance.  In old astrological texts, as in the book of Prophecies of Daniel, comets that took the form of a sword were originally related to the planet of Mars,” — which planet just so happens to be red in color.

But that’s just my speculation on this particular planetary body.

And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

A planetary body passes by that manifests no color, with a plasma discharge resembling a pair of balances on either side.

And I looked, and behold a pale [green] horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.

A final planetary body passes by that is green in color, with an orbiting satellite.

There was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth.

And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us, and hid us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb.”

The effect of these four near pass-bys of planetary bodies is a great earthquake, the sun being darkened, the moon glowing red, and asteroids falling to the earth.  When these events start to unfold, the great men of renown on the earth will seek out their underground compounds to hide from the asteroid collisions.  Others will merely seek out caves and mountain hiding places.

The Righteous do not seek Refuge Underground:

I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.”

These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.  They shall hunger no more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.  For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

The meek of the earth will not seek refuge in underground compounds.  Rather, they will gather together under the shadow of the God who sitteth on the throne [within the plasma column].  Here, in his “temple”, the righteous will be fed by precipitating carbohydrate compounds [manna] and fountains of water.

Piece of Information #2:  The woman clothed with the sun and her relationship to the Babylon the whore.

A Planet Ready to Birth a Rocky Satellite:

A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve starts: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

The woman is a radiant [or discharging] planet that is about to give birth to a rocky satellite out of one of her polar openings.

A Red Planet Attempts to Destroy the Birthed Satellite:

A great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.  And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

The great red dragon is a planetary body that displays a plasma discharge characterized by ten horn-like projections with seven orbiting satellites.  It will resemble a comet [because it will have a tail].  The Red Planet travels near to where the radiant Woman Planet is in an attempt to destroy the rocky satellite that she is about to expel.

The Woman Planet Births the Rocky Satellite:

And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

After the rocky satellite comes out of one of the polar openings, it is captured by the gravity of the planet seated on the plasma “throne” where it will orbit – and not be destroyed by the Red Planet.

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

After the birthing process, the Woman Planet departs to a different place in the sky, low on the horizon.

The Servant Planet Michael Wars with the Red Planet:

And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.  And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The Servant Planet known as Michael and his accompanying Servant Planets come in and scatter the Red Planet and cause it to be cast down low on the horizon.

The Red Planet Persecutes the Woman Planet:

“Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.  Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!  for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”

And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.  And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly unto the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.  And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.  And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Now that the Red Planet is cast low on the horizon, it is near to where the Woman Planet traveled.  This Planet then manifests a plasma discharge resembling wings and travels out of sight below the horizon and out of the scene [for the time being].

The Two Beasts:

I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.  And the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

And all the world wondered after the beast.  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, “Who is like unto the beast?  who is able to make war with him?”

The first beast is a planetary body that arises up from the horizon over an ocean, discharging ten horn-like projections and having seven orbiting satellites – much like the Red Planet earlier.  At this point, the interplanetary displays between the Red Planet and this new beast will cause real idolatry to return.

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.  And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast.  And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on earth in the sight of men.

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast.  And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.  And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their forehead: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.  For it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The second beast is a planetary body that arises up from the horizon over the land, discharging two horn-like projections.


And great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.  And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

“Come hither; I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”

So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.  And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand.

“I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.”

The great Babylon is the same planet that had previously appeared as the radiant Woman Planet who birthed the rocky satellite.  After the manifestation of the plasma wings, the Woman Planet descended below the horizon – where she will reappear after “coming in remembrance before God”, who is that Planet who sits on the plasma “throne”.

The Queen of Heaven, or Virgin Mother, returns as Babylon the Whore.  Both of these characters in the story a different representations of the same planetary body.  Once it returns, the planet will form a polar stack with the planet that arose from the horizon above the ocean [the first beast].  And this event is the final event before the massive EEAAOOAAEE Planet returns to our solar system and encapsulates the earth in its plasma cocoon for the duration of the Millennium.

At first, I didn’t understand what it meant that I was being shown that the Woman clothed with the sun is the same as the Whore.  From Catholic school, I know that the Catholics associate this imagery with the Virgin Mary – so it was strange for me to think about this planet also being the Whore.

As I read through some material to see what might explain this dream, I came to realize that it all has to do with my perspective.

Clothed, she is the Mother.  Virgin because she is not yet known.  But upon her return she is the Whore, revealing herself to all mankind, that they all may know her – for in the scriptural language, “to know” expresses the sexual union.

And Adam knew his wife, and she bare unto him sons and daughters, and they began to multiply and to replenish the earth.

We needn’t think that the “Whore” is an insult to the “Mother”.  Sex and nudity get labeled as vulgar or shameful because they represent the denial of individuality [the left-brain, masculine dynamic].  With sex, because it is the complete reception of another [becoming one flesh] – and with nudity because, well, we all look the same naked.  Clothed, I can distinguish myself into rank, class, or social group – but naked, I am Adam, retelling the creation drama of the garden of Eden.

So — she returns from her place in the wilderness, nourished, and now known as revelation — because she is fully revealed.  Of course, “revelation” is merely the Latin way of saying “apocalypse”, or the end of the world.  And it is her return that is the world’s destruction.

The cup of wine that she carries was given to her by God when she came in remembrance before Him.  It is the sacred cup – the sangreal – the bottomless chalice of compassion that King Arthur’s knights sought after so diligently, carrying their swords.  Which is, of course, the job of the knight – to break down the tower that holds the princess captive, to liberate her – to immerse the will in charity.

Thus, she is the Mother because of her compassion.  But the Whore because she receives all who come unto her and stoops low enough to encompass all things.  She represents the Heavenly Mother – the Womb that yields and receives, endlessly.  The outer darkness into which the Father’s seed will expand for ever and ever.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass…

Jesus’ revelation will end the world as we know it – what we would call an apocalypse.  But the power by which God works is agency, meaning He only works through free agents choosing to act by way of persuasion, long-suffering, gentleness, meekness, etc. [without compulsory means].  And Jesus showed the world what the kingdom looks like by the miraculous works of the Father that He manifested – showing us how to end the reign of the four horsemen and establish the Reign of God.

Those works that He did are what bring about an apocalypse – but we [as free agents] must do those works for it to become reality – instead of just being the idea of Zion.

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  1. What a fascinating dream! When did you have it? Were you reading and pondering upon the Book of Revelation prior to the dream, or did it just present itself unexpectedly?

    What would you say is the first heavenly sign we ought to look for? By that I mean that if the four horsemen cause the earthquake, is the first horseman the first heavenly sign, or do you believe that there will be another heavenly sign that precedes it, or perhaps a plurality of heavenly signs preceding it? For example, the sign of the throne, did you get the impression that it preceded the first horseman, or did you get the impression that it merely was established by the time the fourth horseman arrived on the scene? Etc.

  2. Right — the post was long enough and pretty narrow in the audience I thought might be interested in it that I didn’t put much detail in about the dream I had — so thanks for asking.

    The subject of the Book of Revelations was brought to my attention by something Joana wrote to me [early last week, Mon or Tues, I think]. I read through a couple of the chapters in Revelation [chap 11-13] when I wrote my response to what she had said to me — but that was it.

    Then that night is when I had the dream in which I experienced the entire event as a planetary display [from God sitting on His throne until the Whore rides the Beast] — like I described in this post.

    In my dream, the sign of God being seated on His throne preceded the first of the four horsemen-planets passing by.

    The saints were gathering to the location underneath the planet. It was my impression during the dream that the plasma column [throne] was what provided safety from the calamities taking place — however, when I was reading through the book in putting this post together — I had the thought that it is also possible that the throne is like a Jacob’s Ladder to ascend, and the saints may also be taking refuge on the God-Planet — I had that thought when I read through Revelations the next morning and saw:

    Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

    The righteous gathered to the throne may actually be dwelling “in the heavens” — meaning caught up to the planet. While the rest of humanity is described as inhabiting the earth.

    In any event — the images of the dragon and the two beasts and the women was the one that was most surprising to me.

    In my dream, I could observe the woman clothed with the sun [after birthing the rocky man-child Planet] descend below the horizon in one part of the sky — and then come back up further down the horizon — appearing differently, but still the same planet.

    It then formed a polar stack with the beast-planet that arose over the ocean — and that was the event that immediately preceded the end [Satan bound, millennial reign, all that].

    My dream did not continue on beyond that — but I did read through the rest of the chapters [the ones in between God on throne and the Woman as well as the ones after the Whore] after I woke up and could think of the ways events could match with a planetary interpretation consistent with the narrative I had seen.

  3. I believe that Anthony Larson wrote a book about Revelation. I don’t have the book. Do you? If so, does his interpretation of those passages match yours?

    Also, which do you believe is the God planet that sits atop the throne? Could it be the planet Saturn or another of the current planets that make up the solar system, or do you think it was something we have yet to see?

  4. I only have Anthony’s first two book [not the one on Revelation] — but his book …And the Moon Shall Turn to Blood… does mention some about Revelation and how it is the same imagery in the Book of Mormon and the Exodus. So it only expounds on earthquakes, hailstones, darkness, an incandescent moon, trumpet blasts, music from interacting planets, etc. — in general. Maybe his book entirely written about Revelation touches on the God on the throne, woman clothed with the Sun, etc. — in detail.

    So — D&C 88:47 — which you just quoted on my other post:

    Behold, all these are kingdoms, and any man who hath seen any or the least of these hath seen God moving in his majesty and power.

    when compared with the next verse:

    I say unto you, he hath seen him; nevertheless, he who came unto his own was not comprehended.

    Tells me that the God-planet — the one that the physically-embodied anthropomorphic personage we worship resides on — is within view from Earth. Whereas Jesus Christ, residing on the EEAAOOAAEE-planet, is not currently in sight and — when He does come around — the planet won’t be correctly discerned as being Jehovah, meaning people will just “say it is a planet, a comet, etc.”

    So, Saturn works for me. In comparative mythology — Saturn is always the primordial God of the “Golden Age” — the stationary sun, the Great King on the throne, the one who provided the people with bountiful harvest — the one earthly kings had to prove they were descended from [or be rejected by the people] — etc.

    So I could it being Saturn, and I think it makes sense to say that it is Saturn — but I’m not married to the idea.

    The only thing I can say I’m sure of is that EEAAOOAAEE is something we have yet to see — something not currently visible in our skies — while the God who sits on the throne is currently visible in the heavens, just far away and not on His throne.

  5. I do not know why I thought of this. It just popped into my head. So please do not take this as gospel:

    When I first read this post, I thought of a devil planet. Namely, that just as there is a planet named after, and representative of the Lord, so there is a planet named after and representative of Satan. This planet Lucifer is the “destroyer” and the “devourer.”

    Planets give birth by expulsion. Angel planets “cannot be enlarged” (D&C 132:17) and so do not have “a continuation of the seeds forever and ever” (D&C 132: 19) like planetary gods. The planet Lucifer is the Planet Jehovah in reverse. Instead of giving birth to new planets out its north and south polar openings, through expulsion, these opening have become “a bottomless pit” or a “great pit,” which shall give birth to a beast (planetary aberration) and which then “shall be filled by those who digged it,” meaning that this great planet will swallow other smaller planetary bodies, causing them to enter these openings, and will also capture many other planetary bodies as satellites (“the devil’s power of captivation”), due to its great size. Being Lucifer, the “bearer of light”, it will shine in the sky and all the wicked will worship it.

  6. I’ve thought along similar terms myself — specifically gravity as the captivating power and consuming at its polar openings, instead of birthing — I believe that is the planet that Moses encountered in the first chapter of the Book of Moses — specifically Satan claiming to be the Only Begotten, meaning the planet discharges radiantly [like Jehovah].

  7. Many who are awaiting the arrival of Planet X, Nemesis, Nibiru, Tyche, etc., believe it could be a dark star (a brown dwarf), which glows red. That would match the description of both the dragon planet (planet Lucifer) and Planet Jehovah (who will come in red apparel – D&C 133:48). I wonder if the deception of the world, in which a false Christ shows up on the scene, even the anti-Christ, will be that a brown dwarf comes in and makes changes in the solar system and people think this is the end, start worshipping it, etc., but it is NOT the brown dwarf that represents the Lord, which comes in later. Anthony probably would disagree with this, because he believes it is one planetary/cometary body that causes all of the prophesied signs of the last days and not a multiplicity of planets. But still, having two brown dwarfs that match the description of the Lord’s planet, would actually make it so that even the very elect could be deceived, that is, if everyone is expecting ONE brown dwarf to arrive and really TWO will be arriving in succession, even the elect may look to the first one as Jehovah and be deceived, fulfilling the scripture. And, like Moses saw, one planet discharges more than the other, though they may both be brown dwarfs (“where is thy glory, for it is darkness unto me? And I can judge between thee and God”.) So, yeah, Satan says he’s the Only Begotten, for he’s also a brown dwarf, but the deception isn’t an exact copy because one discharges in glory while the other discharges darkly.

  8. For the benefit of those who have never heard this stuff before, Andy Lloyd, between the 15th-24th June 2011, wrote:

    This Dark Star would appear in the night sky as a red/magenta planet about the same size as Jupiter. In other words, it would be one of the brightest objects in the night sky, very probably brighter than Venus. In addition, I believe that it would have a visible aura, or tail, that would be rather spectacular. That fiery aura would extend out from the planet itself by some considerable degree, possibly extending out to the very edge of the Dark Star’s very considerable magnetosphere ( which would be about 4 x the moon’s diameter across, or more).

    The combination of the bright planet, its contingent of large moons, and in particular its fiery aura would produce the ‘winged’ disk’ effect in the sky, like a mighty red celestial dragon.

    So, that’s the dragon in the book of Revelations.

  9. Since my name and work were cited in the comments on this post, I venture to make one small observation: To fully understand John’s message – indeed, the message of every prophet, both ancient and modern – one must master the iconography of cosmology. This is the objective of my online course, “The Ancient Skies and the Restored Gospel.” Once one masters the symbolism and metaphor engendered by planets and plasmas in Earth’s ancient heavens, the metaphors of the prophets – including John’s Revelation – is as easy to read and understand as today’s newspapers or magazines.

    So I offer this ongoing invitation to one and all: Register to attend my online lessons to learn these truths. If you’ve wondered what is the message of Revelation, as well as the intent of all the visions of the prophets, you will not want to miss these lessons.

    And if you think this claim is mere hyperbole, I’d be happy to put you in touch with folks who have attended the classes. I do not exaggerate, and they will attest to that.

    I hope you will plan to attend in the near future.

  10. So wait — do you think God on the throne is Saturn or not?

  11. When I was reading resurrection narratives recently [as I explained at the beginning of this post] — I noticed the planetary/plasma imagery of this part of 1 Corinthians 15

    for as in
    all die
    even so in
    are all made alive

    but each in his own order
    christ the firstfruits
    they that are christ’s at his coming
    the end
    when he may deliver up the kingdom to god
    even the father
    when he shall have put down all -archy
    and all authority
    and all power

    for it is expedient that he reign
    until he hath put all opposition under his feet
    the last enemy is done away

    “Adam” is earthly life on this planet.

    “the kingdom” delivered to God is this solar system.

    “God, even the Father” is the polar configuration of Saturn.

    All “rule, authority, and power” are the other governing planetary bodies that currently rule in our solar system.

    “under his feet” is referring to the polar stack of planets that characterize the polar configuration mentioned earlier [Here is one of Anthony’s articles on the topic]

    The “trumpet [that] shall sound” [not quoted above, it’s in verse 52] is the audible interaction between the planetary bodies that will signal the resurrection — when the corruptible element is done away, and the spirit instead organizes the body out of incorruptible element capable of inheriting “the kingdom of God” [or Earth returned to its timeless state of existence].

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