No middle ground and no middle kingdoms

All Nephite dissenters were potential sons of perdition.  This was because they had, according to Lehi, “all the commandments from the beginning” (2 Ne. 1:10).  These commandments were on the plates of brass.  Additionally, Lehi and Nephi received more commandments, which Nephi engraved on the large plates of Nephi.  He also engraved some of them in the abridged account found on the small plates of Nephi.

When Nephite prophets and missionaries preached the gospel, or when Nephite priests and teachers taught it, they did so by teaching all the commandments which were found written upon the plates of brass and the large plates of Nephi.  All the Nephites, then, were taught these things from the very beginning.

To become a son of perdition, you have to have a certain degree of knowledge.  All Nephites had this knowledge, for the plates of God contained the mysteries of God.  This left them without excuse.  If they kept the commandments of God, which they were taught, they would receive eternal life in the celestial kingdom of God.  If they did not keep His commandments, they would receive eternal damnation, to be cast out into the lake of fire and brimstone with the devil and his angels.  They were incapable of receiving an inheritance in the terrestrial kingdom, or in the telestial kingdom, for they all had the required knowledge of the sons of perdition.

This is why all Nephite prophets and missionaries—who went out to reclaim the transgressors and dissenters—continually threatened them with “repent or perish!” language.  This is also why every transgressor and dissenter became super hard-hearted.  Transgression—after having all the commandments taught to them, after keeping all those commandments and receiving prosperity and power to do all things by faith, thus becoming convinced of the power of God—caused the good spirit to leave them and the former unclean spirit to return to them with seven other more wicked spirits, so that the last state was worse than the first, even as the Savior taught in JST Matt. 12:36-39.

Then came some of the scribes and said unto him,

Master, it is written that,

Every sin shall be forgiven;

but ye say,

Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven.

And they asked him, saying,

How can these things be?

And he said unto them,

When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest and findeth none; but when a man speaketh against the Holy Ghost, then he saith,

I will return into my house from whence I came out;

and when he is come, he findeth him empty, swept and garnished; for the good spirit leaveth him unto himself.  Then goeth the evil spirit, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

In other words, Nephite transgression always resulted in full on demonic possession, in which a legion of devils took up residence in their now empty souls.

Gentile readers of the Book of Mormon get confused over the actions of the Nehors of Ammonihah, who burned women and children to death in front of Alma and Amulek.  They also get confused over the wickedness and impenitence and unbelief of Laman and Lemuel and all the other dissenters throughout Nephite history.  They simply cannot understand how transgression and ceasing to believe the truth caused all these people to become such hardened, murderous sinners.  From our terrestrial kingdom perspective, people stop attending church or believing in the gospel all of the time, and they don’t go to our enemies to try to stir them up to battle against us, to kill us and take our possessions.  So why did this happen among the Nephites?

Gentiles also get confused at the “fire and brimstone” language of the Book of Mormon.  We have the vision of the three degrees of glory.  We know that there is more than just a heaven and a hell.  So why isn’t this three-degrees doctrine in the Book of Mormon?  Those among us who do not have the Spirit of God in them merely ascribe it to Joseph Smith, saying that he hadn’t, yet, developed that doctrine, therefore he didn’t put it in the Book of Mormon.  Others ascribe it to the Nephites being primitive, or less advanced and enlightened than us Gentiles, so that they were unaware of these middle kingdoms.  All these theories are false.

As I stated in my previous post, the Nephites were at the pinnacle, and when you are at the pinnacle, and you fall, you fall the entire distance.  This is why Lucifer, when he fell, became a devil.  He was an angel in authority in the presence of God, therefore, having such a high position, he didn’t fall into the terrestrial or telestial kingdoms, but swept right past them into hell.  All Nephite dissenters did the same.

A knowledge of this—which I’m giving now to whomever reads this post—allows us to more fully understand what the prophets and missionaries were up against, when they tried to reclaim the dissenters.  They had to, essentially, convert Satan back to the truth of God.  They had to perform exorcisms upon all the dissenters, getting the legion of unclean spirits out of them, and bring these spiritually dead people back to life, through the power of the Holy Ghost working miracles in them.  Even one convert, in such a situation, is miraculous and astounding.  The fact that Nephite preaching was so exceedingly powerful and their faith was so exceedingly strong, that they reclaimed thousands of such dissenters, shows that the Nephites were the master preachers.  They were at the very pinnacle of preaching.  (See, for example, what I wrote about Mormon’s preaching in Mormon as a restoration prophet.)

Now, why is this important to us?  Precisely because the Book of Mormon was written in the “fire and brimstone” manner because it will have special application to the Gentiles of the last days.  Right now the vision of the three degrees is applicable to us, for we do not have “all the commandments from the beginning.”  But at some point, Joseph-Nephi-Lehi will be raised up, and he will have the same convincing power that these ancient Nephite prophets, missionaries, priests and teachers had.  And he will translate the plates of brass and the large plates of Nephi into our languages, and send them forth.  Then the Gentiles will be left without excuse, just as the Nephites were without excuse.  Then the wo pronounced by Jacob will apply to the Gentiles:

But wo unto him that has the law given, yea, that has all the commandments of God, like unto us, and that transgresseth them, and that wasteth the days of his probation, for awful is his state!  (2 Ne. 9:27)

Then Nephi’s words will condemn us:

And you that will not partake of the goodness of God, and respect the words of the Jews, and also my words, and the words which shall proceed forth out of the mouth of the Lamb of God, behold, I bid you an everlasting farewell, for these words shall condemn you at the last day.  For what I seal on earth, shall be brought against you at the judgment bar; for thus hath the Lord commanded me, and I must obey. Amen.  (2 Ne. 33:14-15)

And the angel’s words will condemn us:

And moreover, I say unto you, that the time shall come when the knowledge of a Savior shall spread throughout every nation, kindred, tongue, and people.

And behold, when that time cometh, none shall be found blameless before God, except it be little children, only through repentance and faith on the name of the Lord God Omnipotent.

And even at this time, when thou shalt have taught thy people the things which the Lord thy God hath commanded thee, even then are they found no more blameless in the sight of God, only according to the words which I have spoken unto thee.  (Mosiah 3:20-22)

And Alma’s words in Alma 5 and Mormon’s words in Moroni 8 and so on and so forth.  All the Book of Mormon words will be fully applicable to the Gentiles at that day and the doctrine of the three degrees of glory will no longer apply to us.  We will finally be brought to the two-handed condition spoken of in 1 Ne. 14:7:

For the time cometh,

saith the Lamb of God,

that I will work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the other—either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.

And thus we, also, will have no middle ground and no middle kingdoms.

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  1. As an LDS member, living in México I find your articles very interesting. You know Who gentiles are. Keep up the good work.

  2. I suppose I ought to show some other Book of Mormon scriptures that demonstrate the two-handed condition which existed among them:

    And now, how much more cursed is he that knoweth the will of God and doeth it not, than he that only believeth, or only hath cause to believe, and falleth into transgression?

    Now of this thing ye must judge. Behold, I say unto you, that it is on the one hand even as it is on the other; and it shall be unto every man according to his work. (Alma 32:19-20)

    And he did expound all things, even from the beginning until the time that he should come in his glory—yea, even all things which should come upon the face of the earth, even until the elements should melt with fervent heat, and the earth should be wrapt together as a scroll, and the heavens and the earth should pass away; and even unto the great and last day, when all people, and all kindreds, and all nations and tongues shall stand before God, to be judged of their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil—if they be good, to the resurrection of everlasting life; and if they be evil, to the resurrection of damnation; being on a parallel, the one on the one hand and the other on the other hand, according to the mercy, and the justice, and the holiness which is in Christ, who was before the world began. (3 Ne. 26:3-5)

    And now, my son, I have somewhat to say concerning the restoration of which has been spoken; for behold, some have wrested the scriptures, and have gone far astray because of this thing. And I perceive that thy mind has been worried also concerning this thing. But behold, I will explain it unto thee.

    I say unto thee, my son, that the plan of restoration is requisite with the justice of God; for it is requisite that all things should be restored to their proper order. Behold, it is requisite and just, according to the power and resurrection of Christ, that the soul of man should be restored to its body, and that every part of the body should be restored to itself.

    And it is requisite with the justice of God that men should be judged according to their works; and if their works were good in this life, and the desires of their hearts were good, that they should also, at the last day, be restored unto that which is good.

    And if their works are evil they shall be restored unto them for evil. Therefore, all things shall be restored to their proper order, every thing to its natural frame—mortality raised to immortality, corruption to incorruption—raised to endless happiness to inherit the kingdom of God, or to endless misery to inherit the kingdom of the devil, the one on one hand, the other on the other

    The one raised to happiness according to his desires of happiness, or good according to his desires of good; and the other to evil according to his desires of evil; for as he has desired to do evil all the day long even so shall he have his reward of evil when the night cometh.

    And so it is on the other hand. If he hath repented of his sins, and desired righteousness until the end of his days, even so he shall be rewarded unto righteousness.

    These are they that are redeemed of the Lord; yea, these are they that are taken out, that are delivered from that endless night of darkness; and thus they stand or fall; for behold, they are their own judges, whether to do good or do evil.

    Now, the decrees of God are unalterable; therefore, the way is prepared that whosoever will may walk therein and be saved. (Alma 21:1-8)

    All this stuff is talking of the same thing, essentially, and pertains to these unalterable decrees of God, which I won’t get into, except to say that once a man gets one of these unalterable decrees pronounced upon him, it is a done deal, whether for good or for bad:

    I ought not to harrow up in my desires the firm decree of a just God, for I know that he granteth unto men according to their desire, whether it be unto death or unto life; yea, I know that he allotteth unto men, yea, decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable, according to their wills, whether they be unto salvation or unto destruction. (Alma 29:4)

    The Nephites had an unalterable decree given to them, which was that as long as they were not the aggressor against the Lamanites, they would always prevail, even if they broke all the rest of God’s commandments. But if they broke all His commandments, and also broke this last commandment to never attack the Lamanites, then they got another decree, which guaranteed that they would be exterminated:

    For behold, the promises of the Lord are extended to the Lamanites, but they are not unto you if ye transgress; for has not the Lord expressly promised and firmly decreed, that if ye will rebel against him that ye shall utterly be destroyed from off the face of the earth? (Alma 9:24)

    This is why Mormon writes the following about his people, even though they were unbelievably wicked:

    And it was because the armies of the Nephites went up unto the Lamanites that they began to be smitten; for were it not for that, the Lamanites could have had no power over them. (Mormon 4:4)

    The two-handed condition is based upon these unalterable decrees of God. There are unalterable decrees of God upon this land of ours, which will become quite active again when the convincing power and other records begin to go forth again in the land:

    And now, we can behold the decrees of God concerning this land, that it is a land of promise; and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall serve God, or they shall be swept off when the fulness of his wrath shall come upon them. And the fulness of his wrath cometh upon them when they are ripened in iniquity.

    For behold, this is a land which is choice above all other lands; wherefore he that doth possess it shall serve God or shall be swept off; for it is the everlasting decree of God. And it is not until the fulness of iniquity among the children of the land, that they are swept off.

    And this cometh unto you, O ye Gentiles, that ye may know the decrees of God—that ye may repent, and not continue in your iniquities until the fulness come, that ye may not bring down the fulness of the wrath of God upon you as the inhabitants of the land have hitherto done. (Ether 2:9-11)

    The two-handedness of these decrees do not become active until the other records go forth and until the convincing power is shown to the Gentiles. At that point, the unbelieving of the Gentiles will be toast. Scriptures such as the following apply to the two-handed condition:

    And thus commandeth the Father that I should say unto you: At that day when the Gentiles shall sin against my gospel, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, and shall be lifted up in the pride of their hearts above all nations, and above all the people of the whole earth, and shall be filled with all manner of lyings, and of deceits, and of mischiefs, and all manner of hypocrisy, and murders, and priestcrafts, and whoredoms, and of secret abominations; and if they shall do all those things, and shall reject the fulness of my gospel, behold, saith the Father, I will bring the fulness of my gospel from among them.

    These Gentiles will become just as prideful as the wicked Nephites of old, committing the very same sins, and enacting the very same unalterable decrees of destruction. All this stuff is still future to us, but I suppose will soon be coming in.

  3. From a recent reading of the scriptures, it appears to me that the Gentiles will go to hell in a hand basket quite rapidly, very soon after or even immediately after the new records come forth. The Nephites lasted a thousand years before extinction. In other words, they had the records for a thousand years, approximately, before they activated the destruction decree of God. The Gentiles, though, from my reading, appear to get the records and then immediately afterward start ripening in iniquity. It wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t even last a decade before God’s destruction decree is activated.

  4. From age 14 (which is when I first read the Book of Mormon) until two days ago, I have never understood the second part of 3 Ne. 21:11, try as I might.

    Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant.

    As I read this verse two days ago, a new understanding came upon me, namely, that the situation that exists today–in which Joseph Smith brought forth unto the Gentiles the Book of Mormon, but the vast majority of them have never read it, nor have any interest or intention to read it–will not exist during Joseph-Nephi-Lehi’s ministry. He will bring forth the new records, translating and publishing them, like Joseph Smith did, but he will also be given power so that all those words will be known and understood by the inhabitants of the earth, leaving them without the excuse that “they never read it.” I haven’t a clue whether this power will show the words to people, in some miraculous manner, so that they are compelled to read them, or whether it will read the words aloud to people, again in some miraculous manner, so that they audibly hear them, or whether the words and their understanding will be miraculously placed into the hearts and minds of the people, so that it will be impossible to refuse to know the contents of the records. However the power operates, it will cause all the Gentiles to possess this knowledge, even if they refuse to open up the books themselves. This was the understanding I got two days ago.

  5. More two-handedness (the two-handed condition)

    Yea, there are many who do say:

    If thou wilt show unto us a sign from heaven,
    then we shall know of a surety;
    then we shall believe.

    Now I ask,

    is this faith?

    Behold, I say unto you,


    for if a man knoweth a thing he hath no cause to believe, for he knoweth it.

    And now, how much more cursed is he that knoweth the will of God and doeth it not, than he that only believeth, or only hath cause to believe, and falleth into transgression?

    Now of this thing ye must judge. Behold, I say unto you,

    that it is on the one hand even as it is on the other;
    and it shall be unto every man according to his work.

    (Alma 32:17-20)

  6. While I readily agree that “God grants according to their desires”, I have a hard time seeing how God also decrees unalterable decrees according to/based on their wills. Seems like when God decrees something, He doesn’t consult anyone’s will.

    Wouldn’t removing a comma in Alma 29:4 make more sense if it reads “decreeth unto them decrees which are unalterable according to their wills, whether they [the decrees] be unto salvation or unto destruction”.
    “unalterable according to their wills” === “their wills cannot alter”

  7. These are they that are redeemed of the Lord; yea, these are they that are taken out, that are delivered from that endless night of darkness; and thus they stand or fall; for behold, they are their own judges, whether to do good or do evil.

    Now, the decrees of God are unalterable; therefore, the way is prepared that whosoever will may walk therein and be saved. (Alma 41:7-8)

    We, as our own judges, are the first to decide our fate. Or, to be plainer, we are the first judges, and God is the second and final judge. He makes our judgment permanent, by issuing the unalterable decree, which is based upon our own wills and judgment.

    I’ll give an example, according to the teachings I give to my children. Me, saying to my children, “You all are sealed to me, and that sealing is an ordinance of exaltation, not of salvation. This means that you all get access to the promises that were given to me, of exaltation, if you comply with the conditions. The condition of the father-to-child sealing is the 5th commandment. You all have got to honor me, which means to obey and respect me and my laws. In addition, you all have to keep the rest of God’s commandments, too. At the last day, God will say to me, “Call forth your children.” And I will call forth all those children that honored me. Those children that rebelled against me will not be called forth, nor claimed by me as children, (nor will I even have power to call them forth and claim them.) I, then, am the first judge, and will judge whether you are to worthy to be my children, making an assessment whether you honored me or not. If I have power to call you forth and claim you as my own, God will call you forth and claim you as His own children, also, and you will enter into your exaltation. He will take His cue from me. I am the first judge, and He is the second that makes my judgment permanent. If I do not claim you, He will call you forth and say to you, ‘As this man that I sealed you to as your father, who I commanded you to honor, has not claimed you as his child, neither will I claim you as my child.’ I, then, as your earthly father, will be your first judge, and Heavenly Father, as your Father, will be your final judge. My decree, then, will be made unalterable by Heavenly Father issuing the same decree, according to His almighty and eternal power. So, don’t throw away your inheritance by rebelling, like the devil did!”

    In like manner, we become our own judges, determining whether we will receive Celestial, Terrestrial or Telestial glories, and, if Celestial glory, whether we will receive exaltation. Our very bodies will shine accordingly, per our wills and judgment. God, then, will issue the final judgment and decree, making the whole thing unalterable, so that we can’t go from one glory to another, but will be locked into whatever we receive, for all eternity.

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