“Behold the Time has Fully Come”


“Behold the Time has Fully Come”
By OneWhoIsWatching www.threewatches.blogspot.com

On April 3rd 1836 Jesus Christ, the Jehovah of the Old Testament suddenly and secretly appeared in the Kirtland Temple to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery.

While standing upon the Ark of the Covenant, suspended in mid air, the Savior of the world declared;

I am the first and the last; I am he who liveth, I am he who was slain; I am your advocate with the Father.  Behold, your sins are forgiven you; you are clean before me; therefore, lift up your heads and rejoice.

Let the hearts of your brethren rejoice, and let the hearts of all my people rejoice, who have, with their might, built this house to my name. For behold, I have accepted this house, and my name shall be here; and I will manifest myself to my people in mercy in this house.

Yea, I will appear unto my servants, and speak unto them with mine own voice, if my people will keep my commandments, and do not pollute this holy house.

Yea the hearts of thousands and tens of thousands shall greatly rejoice in consequence of the blessings which shall be poured out, and the endowment with which my servants have been endowed in this house.

And the fame of this house shall spread to foreign lands; and this is the beginning of the blessing which shall be poured out upon the heads of my people. Even so. Amen.” ( D&C 110 See also Exod 25:22)

Following that declaration and the transferring of the keys of the gathering of Israel from Moses and the dispensation of the Gospel of Abraham by Elias, Elijah the Prophet appeared and made the following declaration;

Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi– testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come- To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse- Therefore, the keys of this dispensation are committed into your hands; and by this ye may know that the great and dreadful day of the Lord is near, even at the doors.”

The declaration of Elijah the prophet in the above passages appears to be declaring two things;

1) The prophecy pertaining to Elijah the Prophet contained in Malachi had just recently been fulfilled-

2) The keys to the dispensation of the great and dreadful day of the Lord had been committed to Joseph and Oliver. (That future dispensation has also been revealed as the dispensation of the fulness of times. See D&C 27: 13, D&C 121: 31, D&C 124: 41, D&C 128: 18, 20)

Following this amazing series of visitations Joseph and Oliver had their scribe, Warren Cowdery, (Olivers brother), write down a brief description of the event into a journal.

During the remaining eight years of Joseph’s life, there is no evidence of a public disclosure of this most sacred event by any of these three individuals.

Joseph even gave a public discourse on the future appearance of Elias, Elijah and Messiah without taking the opportunity of disclosing what had already happened or attempting to build upon what had taken place in the Kirtland Temple with Elias, Elijah and Messiah.

It would be decades before the Kirtland Temple visitation would be revealed to the Saints in an article in the Deseret News and a full Biblical generation of 40 years before it would find its way into the canonized revelations in the D&C.

So what event spoken of by Malachi had FULLY COME to pass by April of 1836?

Some LDS scholars believe that the very appearance and declaration by Elijah the Prophet in the Kirtland Temple was the fulfilling of the Malachi’s prophecy but we know that cannot be the case.

We know this because the Angel Moroni gave Joseph Smith a more inspired version of the prophecy revealing that Elijah needed to reveal the priesthood through a physical ordinance by hand, and such an event did not take place pertaining to the visit of Elijah the prophet during the Kirtland Temple visitation;

“..Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord..”

It is very important to note that the revealing of the priesthood was to take place by hand, not just by verbal declaration.

With this in mind, others assume that perhaps the appearance of John the Baptist to Joseph and Oliver wherein he laid his hands on them and ordained them to the priesthood must have been the fulfillment of the Malachi prophecy that Elijah was referring to..

One could actually make a very strong case for that deduction given the fact that the New Testament identifies John the Baptist as the one coming in the spirit of Elijah that Malachi spoke of. (another interpretation could be the fact that he identified Christ, the great High Priest as the Messiah, and then baptized him by hand)

Nevertheless, Isaiah and the inspired version of the Bible reveal that the prophecy by Malachi was to have multiple fulfillment’s, with two separate prophets that come in the spirit and calling of Elijah.

The JST version of the NT identifies John the Baptist as Elijah the preparer who was to first come and prepare the way. But it reveals that in the end times there would be a second prophet coming who was referred to as Elijah the restorer.

Hence, the declaration of Elijah the prophet in the Kirtland Temple was clearly not referring to the restoration of the Aaronic priesthood by the hand of John the Baptist which had occurred in 1829 as a preparatory act in restoring the church of Christ to the earth.

So if John the Baptist is Elijah the preparer, who is Elijah the restorer?

And when did Elijah the restorer reveal the priesthood by hand indicating the time had fully come of which Malachi prophesied about?

Clearly it would have to have taken place between the time John the Baptist restored the Aaronic priesthood in 1829 and the visitations in the Kirtland Temple in 1836.

The Purpose of this paper is to document exactly what the prophecy of Malachi was referring to, who Elijah the restorer is and exactly when the revealing of the priesthood by hand took place. (and who the rightful holder of the priesthood is that is spoken of by the ancient prophets)

By doing key word, key phrase and key concept searches, it appears that the act of revealing of the priesthood may include the act of revealing who the Davidic King would be in the third watch, or, in other words,  He whose right it is to reign over the kingdom and dispense the priesthood throughout the kingdom.

When the great overturning of the wicked rulers and their kingdom of iniquity take place, the profane wicked prince of Israel will be dethroned and a literal descendant of David, He whose right it is to rule, will be crowned to reign in behalf of Christ until Christ comes in his glory;

And thou, profane awicked prince of Israel, whose bday is come, when iniquity shall have an end,  Thus saith the Lord God; Remove the adiadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is blow, and abase him that is high. I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.” Ezek. 21: 27 (See also D&C 58: 22)

Regarding this topic, the Prophet Joseph Smith once taught;

… the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and will be given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage.” (Doctrinal History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 253.)

I am suggesting that Elijah the restorer is the descendant of King David spoken of by Joseph Smith and many of the ancient prophets, who has the priesthood right to reign.

Let us first review the prophesy in Malachi as it reads in the King James Version;

For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts. Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

It is a great blessing to have the additional information that has been revealed during the laying of the foundation of the LDS restoration pertaining to those passages through the Book of Mormon, the D&C and the Inspired Version of the Bible and other teachings.

We will review the additional light that God has revealed about those passages and then we will use this information to create an amalgamated text of Malachi’ prophecy.

Then we will identify exactly who Elijah the Restorer is and when he revealed the Priesthood by hand indicating that the time of the fulfillment of the prophecy had fully come. We shall see that just as Elijah the preparer had a type and a literal fulfillment of the prophesy, Elijah the restorer does too;

Listing of additional things revealed pertaining to Malach 4

1- Isaiah prophesies of the mission of Elijah and Christ reveals that every prophecy of Isaiah will have a dual fulfillment; One fulfillment prior to his visit to the Nephites and one fulfillment after his visit to the Nephites; “The avoice of him that crieth in the wilderness, bPrepare ye the cway of the Lord, make straight in the desert a dhighway for our God”. ( Isaiah prophecies about the coming of Elijah see Isa. 40: 3) “…for great are the words of bIsaiah. For surely he spake as touching all things concerning my people which are of the house of Israel; atherefore it must needs be that he must speak also to the Gentiles. And all things that he spake have been and shall be, even according to the words which he spake.” (Christ reveals that all things Isaiah spoke of have been and shall be… they apply to the Jews and to the Gentiles 3rd Nephi)

2- According to the Inspired Version of the Bible there are actually two Elijahs, a preparer and a restorer; The inspired version reveals that there are actually two prophets that come in the calling of Elijah (which is spelled Elias in the New Testament) The first Elijah comes to prepare the way, the second comes in the last days to restore all things.   JST Matt. 11: 13-15 15 And if ye will receive it, verily, he was the Elias, who was for to come and prepare all things.   JST Matt. 17: 10-14 “And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things, as the prophets have written. And again I say unto you that Elias has come already, concerning whom it is written, Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and they knew him not, and have done unto him, whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of Man suffer of them. But I say unto you, Who is Elias? Behold, this is Elias, whom I send to prepare the way before me. Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist, and also of another who should come and restore all things, as it is written by the prophets.

3- JS History tells us that Elijah will “plant” in the hearts of the children the promises of the fathers;

“…After telling me these things, he commenced quoting the prophecies of the Old Testament. He first quoted part of the third chapter of aMalachi; and he quoted also the fourth or last chapter of the same prophecy, though with a little variation from the way it reads in our Bibles. Instead of quoting the first verse as it reads in our books, he quoted it thus: For behold, the aday cometh that shall bburn as an oven, and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall burn as cstubble; for they that come shall burn them, saith the Lord of Hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. And again, he quoted the fifth verse thus: Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the cLord. He also quoted the next verse differently: And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers. If it were not so, the whole earth would be utterly wasted at his coming.

4- Section 98 informs us that the terms “fathers” and “children” also apply to “Prophets” and “Jews” “Therefore, arenounce war and proclaim peace, and seek diligently to bturn the hearts of the children to their fathers, and the hearts of the fathers to the children; And again, the hearts of the aJews unto the prophets, and the prophets unto the Jews; lest I come and smite the whole earth with a curse, and all flesh be consumed before me.”  D&C 98: 17

5- Joseph Smith taught that the word “turn” means “bind” or “seal”. “I wish you to understand this subject, for it is important; and if you will receive it, this is the spirit of Elijah, that we redeem our dead, and connect ourselves with our fathers which are in heaven, and seal up our dead to come forth in the first resurrection; and here we want the power of Elijah to seal those who dwell on earth to those who dwell in heaven. This is the power of Elijah and the keys of the kingdom of Jehovah. …”Now comes the point. What is this office and work of Elijah? It is one of the greatest and most important subjects that God has revealed. He should send Elijah to seal the children to the fathers, and the fathers to the children.”  ” History of the Church, 6:251-53 “”How shall God come to the rescue of this generation? He will send Elijah the prophet. … Elijah shall reveal the covenants to seal the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers” History of the Church, 5:555; Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven. As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy; and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. And as are the records on the earth in relation to your dead, which are truly made out, so also are the records in heaven. This, therefore, is the asealing and binding power, and, in one sense of the word, the bkeys of the kingdom, which consist in the key of cknowledge.

15 And now, my dearly beloved brethren and sisters, let me assure you that these are principles in relation to the dead and the living that cannot be lightly passed over, as pertaining to our salvation. For their asalvation is necessary and essential to our salvation, as Paul says concerning the fathers—that they without us cannot be made perfect—neither can we without our dead be made bperfect.

16 And now, in relation to the baptism for the dead, I will give you another quotation of Paul, 1 Corinthians 15:29: Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? Why are they then baptized for the dead?

17 And again, in connection with this quotation I will give you a quotation from one of the prophets, who had his eye fixed on the arestoration of the priesthood, the glories to be revealed in the last days, and in an especial manner this most glorious of all subjects belonging to the everlasting gospel, namely, the baptism for the dead; for Malachi says, last chapter, verses 5th and 6th: Behold, I will send you bElijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord: And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.I might have rendered a aplainer translation to this, but it is sufficiently plain to suit my purpose as it stands. It is sufficient to know, in this case, that the earth will be smitten with a bcurse unless there is a welding clink of some kind or other between the fathers and the dchildren, upon some subject or other—and behold what is that subject? It is the ebaptism for the dead. For we without them cannot be made perfect; neither can they without us be made perfect. Neither can they nor we be made perfect without those who have died in the gospel also; for it is necessary in the ushering in of the dispensation of the ffulness of times (See section 128)

6- We learn from the appearance of Moroni that it is Gods Servants that will burn the wicked; Moroni reveals, in the Joseph Smith History tells us that “they” who come shall burn them. JS-H 1: 37

7- We know from other prophesies that the word “Lest” means “Before” or “In preparation for”; The dictionary indicates that “lest” some times means “That not”; other times it means “for fear that”, or in other words, “because of” or “in preparation for”. We know that it has to do with the second definition because the scriptures make it clear in multiple places that the earth WILL be smitten with a curse. The point is that Elijah needs to come to prepare and gather the righteous before the curse goes forth, otherwise all of the inhabitants of the earth, including the righteous would be destroyed. (See the prophesied blessing and the cursing in Deut. 30: 1, 19 Also Isaiah’s prophecy that the curse will devour the earth in Isa. 24: 6 etc.)

8- 3rd Nephi reveals that the word “Sun” should be translated “Son” (although both are applicable since the Sun gets it light from Christ); 3 Ne. 25: 2.

Using the information noted above, here is my amalgamated version of the prophesy contained in Malachi;

” For behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: for they that come shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

But unto you that fear my name shall the Son of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.

And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts. Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, who is to restore all things before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

And during the 2nd watch he shall first plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and in the 3rd watch the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers and he will bind and seal the heart of the Prophets to the Jews, and the heart of the Jews to the Prophets, in preparation for when I come and smite the earth with a curse. If it were not for the return of Elijah the restorer, the whole earth, including the righteous would be utterly wasted at his coming” (Amalgamation and interpretation of the  text of the prophecy in Mal 4 by the Watcher.. changes in red)

There are some amazing things revealed in this prophecy!

Among them is the fact that Elijah the restorer will first prepare the fathers and the children, the Jews and the Prophets by planting a desire in their hearts. Then at the appointed time, he will seal or bind them up before the curse goes forth;

“Q What are we to understand by the angel ascending from the east, Revelation 7th chapter and 2nd verse?

A We are to understand by the angel ascending from the east is he to whom is given the seal of the living God over the twelve tribes of Israel; wherefore, he crieth unto the four angels having the everlasting gospel, saying: Hurt not he earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And, if you will receive it, this is Elias which was to come to gather together the tribes of Israel and restore all things.”

Notice the related promise that the restorer and his fellow servants will go forth to prepare the Saints by binding up the law and sealing the testimony;

Therefore, tarry ye, and labor diligently, that you may be perfected in your ministry to go forth among the aGentiles for the last time, as many as the mouth of the Lord shall name, to bbind up the law and cseal up the testimony, and to prepare the saints for the hour of judgment which is to come”  D&C 88: 84

Of course the modern version of this prophesy in section 88 pertaining to the binding up of the law and the sealing of the testimony is in part, a take-off of Isaiah 8.

These passages reveal that when the Davidic Servant returns, who holds the right of priesthood, will be a stumbling block and a rock of offense to both of the kingdoms of Israel that will have become united in the latter days, both the outcasts of Israel and the dispersed of Judah who have gathered unto the gospel covenant. While a remnant will be saved, many will stumble and fall and be snared and taken;

And he shall be for a asanctuary; but for a bstone of cstumbling and for a drock of eoffence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a fsnare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken. aBind up the testimony, bseal the claw among my disciples.” Isa. 8: 16

Of course, Isaiah and section 88 are prophesying about the time of the cursing and the blessing that Moses prophesied about. ( See Deuteronomy 28-32)

But getting back on topic, who is Elijah the Restorer?

To identify this person we need to go back to the early part of the LDS restoration movement when a fellow by the name of Oliver Cowdery and others were commissioned by the Lord to take the gospel message to another branch of the house of Israel, even the Lamanites.

Oliver was also commissioned to help identify and ordain the 12 apostles that would take the gospel message to foreign lands to gather the dispersed of Judah and the outcasts of Israel, two other branches of the Olive Tree.

Oliver was playing a key role in helping to fulfill the prophesies contained in the allegory of the tame and wild olive trees given by the prophet Zenos. I was reminded the other day by a friend in Utah Valley that the name “Oliver” means “Olive Tree”. What a coincidence!)

In section 6 of the D&C, we read thus:

“And now behold I give unto you (O. Cowdery), and also unto my servant Joseph, the keys of this gift, which shall bring to light this ministry.”

What ministry is the Lord referring to?

It appears that the Lord was referring to a separate, existing ministry from the ministry that Joseph and Oliver were involved in… it was the ministry which was to finish the work of bringing to pass the restoration of Israel, and through these means prepare the way for the coming of Christ.

This is truly amazing. The Lord was not giving Joseph and Oliver the keys of this ministry, he was giving them the privilege and calling of bringing an existing preparatory ministry to light!

Shortly after Joseph and Oliver receive this promise that they will be the ones to bring an existing ministry to light, a revelation comes through Joseph for Oliver and others to go on a mission to the Lamanites.

During the mission Oliver and his companions pay a call to Sidney Rigdon and encourage him to read the Book of Mormon.

Within a short period of time, Rigdon has joined the Church, been the means of preparing hundreds of others to come into the church. He meets Joseph Smith for the first time in December of 1830. During that visit, the revelation currently known as section 35 is given in which the Lord reveals that Sidney is the one who is like John the Baptist (Elijah the preparer)

Behold, verily, verily I say unto my servant Sidney, I have looked upon thee and thy works. I have heard thy prayers, and prepared thee for a greater work. Thou art blessed, for thou shalt do great things. Behold thou wast sent forth even as John, to prepare the way before me and before Elijah which should come.”

On the surface, this passage is amazingly clear, yet if we drill down a little further, we see an amazing cryptic message embedded into it.

The passage informs us that Bishop Rigdon’s previous ministry was typological of John the Baptists. It was a preparatory ministry… and, as we have pointed out,  John the Baptist was Elijah the preparer who prepared the way for Christ and also prepared the way for the restoration of the Gospel in the 2nd watch.

However, the passage goes on to inform us that Rigdon would in the future, do a greater work. He would have a greater ministry. He would eventually do GREAT THINGS… even as the apostles of old.  The implication is that Rigdon’s next work would be that of restorer.

Verses 7&8 provide greater clarity to the future work that Sidney will do in the 3rd watch,  they say;

And it shall come to pass that there shall be a great work in the land, even among the Gentiles, for their folly and their abominations shall be made manifest in the eyes of all people. For I am God and mine arm is not shortened; and I will show miracles, signs and wonders unto all those who believe on my name.”

Now, getting back to the cryptic aspect of the passages;

thou wast sent forth even as John, to prepare the way before me and before Elijah which should come.”

So, we have Joseph Smith who is identifying Sidney Rigdon and the priesthood by which he conducted his ministry!

I believe that is a shadow fulfillment of the prophecy in Malachi.

Modern revelation reveals that Sidney had been sent to do a preparatory work before the greater work of Elijah the Restorer was to be done. He was first doing a preparatory work but later elijah the Restoreer would reveal the fulness of the priesthood which would bring about a greater work.

It becomes evident that Sidney will be playing a very important part of the greater work and will be working in conjunction with the Lords Seer. .

So, here we have the Lord declaring that Sidney has just finished a preparatory ministry similar to the ministry of John the Baptist, and that he would do GREAT THINGS in a GREATER WORK during the folly of the Gentiles at a future time.

But what about revealing the priesthood by hand?

We know from the angel Moroni that the latter day Elijah the restorer would reveal the priesthood by HAND, or in other words, just as John the Baptist revealed the priesthood by giving it to Joseph and Oliver by the laying on of hands, he who was to come in the spirit and calling of Elijah the prophet in the latter days would also reveal the priesthood ordination, by the laying on of hands.

This is where section 36 becomes hugely important because it provides an explanation of how God himself ordains his servants by hand, through the principle of “divine investiture”, or “divine possession”.

Following the revelation that the Lord gave to Sidney Rigdon, a revelation was given to his friend, Edward Partridge, who had come with him to meet Joseph Smith. In it, the Lord says;

“..and I will lay my hand upon you [Edward Partridge] by the hand of my Servant Sidney Rigdon, and you shall receive my Spirit, the Holy Ghost, even the Comforter, which shall teach you the peaceable things of the kingdom.” (D&C 36:2)

There is an incredible type of how God ordains people.

It was an event similar to this that Elijah the Prophet was acknowledging and declaring in the Kirtland Temple on April 3rd 1836. He was acknowledging that in fulfillment of Malachi’s prophesy, He who would come in the calling of Elijah the Restorer had already revealed the priesthood in preparation for the eventual curse that would be poured out upon the earth.

We know from section 6 that Rigdon will eventually do great things when the great work begins. His past and future ministries had now been brought to light, by revelation, as a result of Joseph and Oliver who had been called to do so.

Oliver Cowdery and Joseph Smith were told that they had the keys of the gift which should bring to light this ministry;

And now I command you, that if you have good desires-a desire to lay up treasures for yourself in heaven-then shall you assist in bringing to light, with your gift, those parts of my scriptures which have been hidden because of iniquity. And now, behold, I give unto you, and also unto my servant Joseph, the keys of this gift, which shall bring to light this ministry; and in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.”

Joseph and Oliver were given the gift and the calling to bring to light an existing ministry! A separate one from their own. They were to identify the ministry (and minister) that was currently doing a work! And then they were to assist him when the folly of the gentiles takes place in the 3rd watch!

Lets review what happens after Joseph and Oliver are given the promise of bring an existing ministry to light;

1) The Lord calls Oliver Cowdery, Parley Pratt and others on a mission to the lamanites. During the mission they take a Book of Mormon to Sidney Rigdon who declares it to be a revelation from God.

2) Oliver Cowdery baptizes Rigdon.

3) Rigdon visits Joseph Smith during their first meeting… the first time they ever met, Joseph pronounces a blessing upon Sidneys head and the Lord identifies Sidney as the one like John the Baptist who had previously been sent forth doing a work that was a preparatory work.

4) Shortly thereafter the Lord identifies (through the Prophet Joseph Smith) Sidney Rigdon as the Spokesman from the loins of Judah prophesied about in the Book of Mormon and the JST version of Genesis.

What is a ministry?

According the Webster-

Ecclesiastical function; agency or service of a minister of the gospel or clergyman in the modern church, or of priests, apostles and evangelists in the ancient. Acts 1. Rom.12. 2 Tim.4. Num.4.

Did Joseph and Oliver use the keys they had been given to bring to light the existing ministry and the existing minister who God had previously called to do a preparatory work?

YES!

Please remember that anciently, King David had a seer who worked in concert with him;

All these which were chosen to be porters in the gates were two hundred and twelve. These were reckoned by their genealogy in their villages, whom David and Samuel the seer did ordain in their set office. ”

Are we seeing a pattern here? The priests had to come before King David and Samuel the Seer to be ordained. Remember how the Lord said in the D&C that all those who would go forth to preach the gospel must come before Sidney and Joseph?

Joseph had just translated the Book of Mormon with the help of Oliver as his scribe and Oliver had just been given the promise that at a future time he would get to translate ancient records as well… hence, Oliver also had, or would be given the gift of translation at a future time.

So what exactly was the gift promised to Joseph and Oliver that would enable them to bring to light the existing ministry of he who would come in the spirit and power of Elijah the prophet?

It was the gift of translation!

How did the gift of translation help to identify Sidney Rigdons calling?

Perhaps two of the most important sections of scripture identifying Sidney’s calling are 2 Ne. 3: 17-18 in the Book of Mormon and JST Gen. 50: 24-38 in the Bible. Both of these records came forth through the miraculous gift of translation.

Both of these speak about the “Spokesman” and his ministry and provide a point of reference for latter day revelation to refer to when revealing who Sidney is. Sections 100 and 124 identify Sidney Rigdon to be the Spokesman prophesied about in 2nd Nephi and JST 50;

And it is expedient in me that you, my servant Sidney, should be a spokesman unto this people; yea, verily, I will ordain you unto this calling, even to be a spokesman unto my servant Joseph.” D&C 100: 9, 11

Certainly the gift of translation that brought forth the Book of Mormon and the inspired version of the Bible (JST) containing prophecies about Rigdons ministry as the spokesman for the one like Moses is part of what the Lord was referring to when he spoke of the gift that Joseph and Oliver had been given.

Furthermore, the revelation in section 6 begins by stating that a Marvelous Work was about to come forth verifying that it had not yet begun!

It was referring of course to a future time.. to the 3rd watch.

I wonder if in the 3rd watch, perhaps Joseph and or Oliver will translate additional records that will shed further light and testimony on the past and future ministries of Sidney Rigdon, Gods Spokesman, and Joseph the Seer, even Elijah the Restorer.

It is remarkable that on this, the new moon of the first month of the transitional year in which the Marvelous Work is very possibly to begin, over 100 elders and other leaders of indigenous tribes in America and other countries have gathered together in a gathering they refer to as “the return of the ancestors“.

Their message to the world is that ;

we have entered into a very special time in history… It began on October 24 when the blue sphere appeared in the solar system marking.. the end of time

there is great change about to happen on earth

According to one of their spokesmen;

These elders are coming from all over for ceremony and for prayer. Prayer for themselves and for the world and for all of us.. this is not just an ordinary ceremony this is a ceremony of extreme power because of the timing, because of what it is about and the true meaning behind this of the returning of the ancestors, it talking about the time when the stars open up to us, when the people who actually created the human race re-appear on earth

How is it possible that so many fragmented tribes of differing beliefs, traditions and in some cases different languages could come together in a united ceremony believing that their ancestors are going to return to teach them wisdom?

The words of the angel Moroni seem very appropriate here;

And he shall plant in the hearts of the children the promises made to the fathers, and the hearts of the children shall turn to their fathers.”

Although the 1st mission of Oliver Cowdery to the Lamanites appeared to be a failure at the time, something obviously took place during the restoration movement with regard to the Lamanites. Elijah the prophet apparently planted something in the hearts of the descendants of these great people.

The Lord has promised that;

“…my awork shall go forth, for inasmuch as the knowledge of a Savior has come unto the world, through the btestimony of the Jews, even so shall the cknowledge of a dSavior come unto my people-


And to the aNephites, and the Jacobites, and the Josephites, and the Zoramites, through the testimony of their fathers-

And this atestimony shall come to the knowledge of the bLamanites, and the Lemuelites, and the Ishmaelites, who cdwindled in unbelief because of the diniquity of their fathers, whom the Lord has suffered to destroy their ebrethren the Nephites, because of their finiquities and their abominations.

And for this very apurpose are these bplates cpreserved, which contain these records-that the dpromises of the Lord might be fulfilled, which he made to his epeople;

And that the aLamanites might come to the knowledge of their fathers, and that they might know the bpromises of the Lord, and that they may cbelieve the gospel and drely upon the merits of Jesus Christ, and be eglorified through faith in his name, and that through their repentance they might be saved. Amen.”

[editorial note: At that conference the leading elders from the various tribes held their special meetings behind closed doors. Even though they invited the gentiles to come and join in the general festivities, the gentiles were no allowed to sit in the leadership counsels of the leading elders of the various Indian tribes that were participating.]

We know the Lamanites are going to come to a knowledge of who they are and who God is. The Lord has also promised that  “the Lamanites shall bblossom as the rose.

The words of the dedicatory prayer of the Kirtland Temple also seem appropriate at this time that the indigenous tribes have become humble and looking for guidance from their ancestors from the dead;

And cause that the aremnants of Jacob, who have been cursed and smitten because of their transgression, be bconverted from their wild and savage condition to the fulness of the everlasting gospel;

And the poor and the meek shall have the gospel preached unto them, and they shall be looking forth for the time of my coming, for it is nigh at hand-
(Doctrine and Covenants | Section 35:15)

The 400 year period shown to Father Abraham has now expired. It is time for the final warning and judgment of this wicked nation.

The time for Elijah the restorer and his fellow servants to seal up of the righteous is about to take place.

So, what event was Elijah the prophet referring to when he made his declaration in the Kirtland Temple? Did Joseph the Seer (Elijah the Restorer) fulfill it when he identified the ministry of Sidney Rigdon?

No. That was a shaddow fulfillment.

In an upcoming article, we will review an incredible event that took place at the Morley Farm in June of 1831 wherein God revealed the greatest priesthood through Joseph Smith… and then bestowed it by hand upon Lyman Wight. At that conference 23 newly ordained high priests received the fulness of the priesthood of Melchezedeki for the first time in this dispensation!

I suspect we have not seen the last of brother Oliver. The Lord has said;

“…for I have given unto him power to dbuild up my echurch among the fLamanites..”

Nor have we seen the last of brother Sidney or brother Lyman.

And we certainly haven’t seen the last of Elijah the Restorer!

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27 Comments

  1. Ummmm,

    That was really, really long.

    Troy

  2. Pearls before swine Pearls before swine…
    Watcher, If you could use more pictures and less scripture Troy would appreciate it.

  3. Oink, Oink!

  4. Thanks, nice writrup. I don’t think I saw the following quote in there, from Joseph Smith.

    “Elias is a forerunner to prepare the way, and the spirit and power of Elijah is to come after, holding the keys of power, building the Temple to the capstone, placing the seals of the Melchizedek Priesthood upon the house of Israel, and making all things ready; then Messiah comes to His Temple, which is last of all. … Elijah was to come and prepare the way and build up the kingdom before the coming of the great day of the Lord.”

    The line there which synthesizes your thoughts is “Elias is a forerunner to prepare the way, and the spirit and power of Elijah is to come after” Two different messengers, Elias himself and the Spirit of Elijah to come after with power (Zion is redeemed by power, section 101) to finish the work all the way to the capstone of the temple and a place for the messiah to come to his temple, or sit of this throne as king of zion.

  5. That is a great and very pertinent quote Dan.

    It should have been in there…. and it really does synthesize my thoughts.

    Perhaps I should have simply provided that quote and called it a day.

    Watcher

  6. what4anarchy and I were conversing tonight and we have both independently and together come to the general conclusion that the signs, as we’ve been reading them, all point to JULY 2009 as the time when the Lord and Satan, bring out their (true and false) prophets from hiding, to speak to the people. (Although I haven’t received revelation on that, I thought that I’d just throw that out anyway…)

  7. Wow, that is a fascinating prediction!

    I can think of at least one reason why you might be feeling that way, based on what the Lord has told us about the New Moon, but I would love to know why you guys both feel that way.

    It would be interesting to know if you and what4anarchy came to the same conclusion while independently using the same rational or if you had different , reasons for how you both arrived at the same conclusion.

    BTW, I personally feel that speculating on specific dates based on the various signs that are around us is part of the spirit of watching and waiting that we have been commanded to do… regardless of whether the prediction comes true or not I think it is part of the spirit of watching and it pleases God that during a time when most people are drinking in worldly pleasures of vacations, NjBA finals, accumulating wealth, etc., that there is a remnant who is watching and hoping for the prophesied season to begin.

    There may be those who would ridicule if the date comes and goes without anything major happening, but you didn’t claim to have a revelation, you were simply sharing a possible date that an event could take place.

    I hope you guys are correct and would love to know more about your reasons for targeting July…

  8. I am writing before reading fully the new portion of this blog.

    Gather the council Michael. Eve is walking her final walk home…

  9. In scripture it does state that the day and the hour is not known. It doesn’t say anything of the year or month.

    The spiritual war being waged actually began February of this year. The completion of the fullness for this dispensation will be in 2016. The beginning of the ministry of light will be next year after february. Both Eve and her loved one (the eagle) will then be 33. Yet, you won’t even know of it beginning…

    Much to the dismay of the world, I am sorry to say that the deeper war is performed away from the worlds eyes. The information will be given to the world after the completion of the work that needs to be done. Which will take a total of 7 more years. It will be revealed after the descent of Eve, her loved one, Michaels second descent and his loved one. Remember, 4 are in the presence of God during this time. The Eagle, The Lion, The Face and The Ox. The second coming the world will see is actually the third. The third will begin with Michaels immediate return to earth after His second descent. Leaving Eve and her loved one in Heaven for a 1,000 years. The spiritual war that is taking place now does not directly involve the people of the world, accept to weaken their faith. It literally involves those wishing to stop the descent of Eve, there by stopping Gods plan. This has become the main focal point. The adversary is using the surface wars to distract and weaken the people in their faith, (Which is Eves cross to bare as she feels all of the children. It is her sacrifice, baring the spiritual death of the peoples sin in losing faith and belief – which affords the people their eternal spiritual life. Christ passed away physically for the children to have the gift of an eternal body, which is a part of eternal life. Eve must pass away through a spiritual sense, baring the effects of lack of faith and belief, in order for the people to gain an eternal spiritual life). This is the deeper war being waged. The adversary is using the surface war to weaken the people and stop Eve. Having Eve consider that after all the work that has already been performed, the children still do not accept the gifts, and are not worthy of her spiritual offering. And this is what you should be watchful of. Recognizing the adversaries work weakening your faith, and staying clear of it. Thus hold stead fast!

    I will have you know that in the end, it is because of the eagle that she goes through with it. One man left on earth that holds the capacity of real love. And of course… because of her brothers endless encouragement, love and protection.

    Eve and her loved one have to complete their work and descend before any of the light can take it’s place for the people. Michael will appear to a few during the time of protecting, guarding and overseeing Eve’s return. You will hear speculation of such. Yet He will not appear to the world until 2016. After such he will be placing the good works performed over the next 7 years into formation with the people who remain. During the next 7 years the two prophets of God that have been on earth since Christs descent, will appear to ease the people during the next 7 years of their trials. These are the two prophets you speak of. They will continue to provide the same information already on earth. They will continue to try and strengthen you, which in all actuality is to strengthen Eve. After, a thousand years will pass with Michael proceeding the formation of the work to be provided after all the work of this dispensation is complete.

    After Michaels thousand years with the people, God, Eve and her loved one will return together for the resurrection and each individuals decision time. The thousand years of Michaels education is knocking on the door and upon you.

    Sorry, but life will continue as it is for the next 7 years. With the wars and natural calamities occurring, trying to weaken your faith as individual, that in the deeper war is trying to hurt Eve. You feel the effects of the deeper spiritual war going on, just by natural consequence that we all are connected. The only consequence is that it will strain and potentially weaken you. This is why you should be watchful of your inward self in regards to what is occurring. Hold fast to your own personal faith and knowing in things that are good.

    Eve is the prepare. MIchael is the restorer. Jesus was Michael and made his descent after the resurrection, choosing his eternal bride during that time. His eternal bride is not Eve. Man kind had to come through Adam and Eve, the original son and daughter of God. Both are free to find their eternal mates during their individual walks to complete the work. Eve now has returned for her walk and descent, choosing her eternal husband. After the descent of Eve, wherein brother and sister return to God with their eternal spouses (The Eagle, The Lion, The Face and The Ox) Michael will return to give the new information. To be the restorer.

    The second descent will happen without the people even knowing of it. The only way you will know that change has occurred is that Michael will appear, ready to talk to the world about the new information.

    lovealways,
    liahona

  10. “In an earlier post I asked a rhetorical question as to whether we (those of us who are watching) need to play a part in bringing the servants back by praying and exercising faith. ”

    This exercise of faith and belief is all that is asked. It will help make it so much easier. It isn’t going to be easy. But, some ease through faith would be appreciated.

    Your third watch will be here in 7 years. Continue lifting hands in good things only until then, please.

    😉

    love always

  11. Here we go. I stated the truth today.

    In consequence, my husband was driving me around the town we are in. My vision is clear. Meaning, I can see things of earth – the plants, the trees, the mountains, the clouds, even the sky… all of it is more clear through human eyes than it ever has been. it is like taking the static away and plugging in the chord. Before, what I was seeing has been designated as the “God particle”. This will be explained during “watch 3”. It is the energy that holds everything together. In heaven it is so, so bright. But, the God particle has been taken from my sight. In other words, the spiritual pass away is beginning.

    Thank you Father.

    I hope you see the blessing in it. I do. It is because I love you. Even amidst the pain of the loss in faith, belief, the fear that is in the midst of the people, amidst everything that I am feeling within the children… I am so happy! If you have ever wondered of Eve’s greatest strength in which the LDS church teaches so heavily – It is that loving submission is the binding tool saved for the last days.

    Peace and love always

  12. You stated:
    {We know this because the Angel Moroni gave Joseph Smith a more inspired version of the prophecy revealing that Elijah needed to reveal the priesthood through a physical ordinance by hand, and such an event did not take place pertaining to the visit of Elijah the prophet during the Kirtland Temple visitation;

    “..Behold, I will reveal unto you the Priesthood, by the hand of Elijah the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord..”)

    Upon reading of the scriptures, one learns that Elijah gave Joseph the sealing keys of the priesthood. Is that not the priesthood being revealed? Just trying to make sense of what you are saying. Also, I think that you might be taking ‘the hand’ to literally. Indeed, how come Joseph never talked about or predicted another later Elijah as you have said?

  13. I take back what I said about Joseph talking about the subject.

    ““… the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and will be given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage.” ”
    I am guessing the doctrinal history of the church is not the same as history of the church? Where did you get that source?

  14. Forgive me, but a few more questions. What is the “third watch?”
    Also, are you trying to say that Sidney Rigdon is to be the Davidic descendant who takes the throne? This would have to be before the second coming, and so in order for him to even be alive, he would have to be a translated being.

    How could Sidney Rigdon simply ordaining Edward to the priesthood in any way be preparing for the second coming? I am having trouble seeing the significance of that act.

    I may seem ignorant to you, and so be it! I am truly trying to grasp all of this.

  15. Tony

    The statement from Joseph Smith about a descendant of David taking the throne in the latter days is found in DHC, vol. 6, p. 253. Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Isaiah, Hosea, and Zechariah also prophesied of this event.

    The phrase “third watch” is taken from the JST 12th Chapter of Luke. I have reason to believe that the term “watch” in those passages means something very similar to “dispensation”, or a time during which the gospel of Jesus Christ is dispensed to man on the earth

    In that chapter it informs us that Christ comes to the earth in secret three times BEFORE he comes the last time in his glory.

    His ministry on earth was during the 1st watch. During that time, the world at large did not know who he was.

    The restoration of the Gospel in the 1800s took place in the 2nd watch wherein he was in the midst of the Saints and made several appearances yet the world at large did not know he was visiting his vineyard again.

    He is to come again to his vineyard in secret a third time before his final coming in glory.

    If you read what the Book of Mormon says about the Marvelous Work, you will see that it speaks of events pertaining to a future time that have not happened yet.

    Speaking of the third watch, David Whitmer made the following statement in an interview in which he reveals that there is to be a second work similar to the one Joseph Smith did;

    “A civil war more bloody and cruel than the rebellion. (first civil
    war) It will be a smashing up of this nation, about which time the SECOND GREAT WORK has to be done, a work like Joseph did, and the translation of the sealed plates, and peace all over.”

    Tony, I visited your blog and enjoyed it. It appears you are pretty new in the Church. Is the picture of you a current one? How old are you? How did you find this site? How did you read the above article without falling asleep?

    Watcher

  16. Tony

    You said;

    “Upon reading of the scriptures, one learns that Elijah gave Joseph the sealing keys of the priesthood. Is that not the priesthood being revealed”

    What scriptures are you referring to? I assume you are referring to section 112. I realize you can choose to interpret the declaration of Elijah as some kind of bestowal or revealing of the priesthood, however it appears to me that the declaration being made is simply stating that the time had fully come for the prophecy to be fulfilled. In other words, Elijah was pointing out that the revealing of the priesthood had already, previously taken place.

    I in fact, it was the event that took place in the Kirtland Temple that fulfilled the prophecy, why didn’t Joseph Smith make the event known to the Church instead of keeping it secret from them?

    Although I may be taking the term “by hand” to literally, we have a precedent that was set by John the Baptist who was the first fulfillment of the prophecy. He identified Christ as the High Priest physically by hand, by baptizing him. In the latter days he identified the first and second elders of the restored church physically by hand by the laying on of hands.

    I don’t see anything that could be construed as identifying the priesthood by hand in the following passages of scriptures;

    “After this vision had closed, another great and glorious vision burst upon us; for Elijah the prophet, who was taken to heaven without tasting death, stood before us, and said:
    14 Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi—testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come—
    15 To turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the children to the fathers, lest the whole earth be smitten with a curse—
    16 Therefore, the keys of this dispensation are committed into your hands; and by this ye may know that the great and dreadful day of the Lord is near, even at the doors.”

  17. Ok, thanks for putting up with my inquiry. I have been a member since Dec. 07, and am 17. I found this blog through Latterday Commentary (Tim Malone’s) blog. I remember finding it interesting , what this blog said about us all lhavnig the same likeness in the celestial kingdom, and decided to come back and check out more of what was written. I am always searching for more truth and trying to understand the Gospel, and so I decided to read this post, though it was a bit tedious.

    I am always interested in the views of others, even when I don’t fully agree, or in some cases understand what they are saying lol.

    I actually visited that site about the endowment, a little suspicious at first, but found that it helped my understanding of the temple and the plan of salvation in quite a few ways.

    Anyways,
    God Bless!
    Tony

    P.S. I am currently reading doctrines of salvation by Joseph Fielding Smith. Interesting stuff!

  18. perfect explanation. Good job!

    The phrase “third watch” is taken from the JST 12th Chapter of Luke. I have reason to believe that the term “watch” in those passages means something very similar to “dispensation”, or a time during which the gospel of Jesus Christ is dispensed to man on the earth In that chapter it informs us that Christ comes to the earth in secret three times BEFORE he comes the last time in his glory. His ministry on earth was during the 1st watch. During that time, the world at large did not know who he was.
    The restoration of the Gospel in the 1800s took place in the 2nd watch wherein he was in the midst of the Saints and made several appearances yet the world at large did not know he was visiting his vineyard again. He is to come again to his vineyard in secret a third time before his final coming in glory. “

  19. you do need to recognize that the 3 watches is happening on three different levels though… just as in how the kingdom is made…

    Heaven – (part of the heavenly beings are already here)
    earth – (the people, or the children of the heavenly beings)
    adversial system – (the part of heavenly beings that are breaking away)

    Or

    Celestial, terrestial, telestial

    The hidden visitations are in accordance as well. Just as in the first visitation, he manifested a physical work accompanied by His teachings. Just as in the second visitation – a physical manifestation of gathering eve, and leaving the remainder of the teachings. But, these teachings will not be delivered to the terrestial kingdom (the people) until the third dispensation.

  20. LDS Anarchist –

    The interesting thing is that in February, the key persons (Gods side and The Adversaries side) were able to know exactly who each other are. Place a face to the names. It took an entire year, between 2008 and 2009, to narrow each other down. In February, the Anti Christ (whom is not the Adversary) a world renowned spiritual author whose work is based on literal truths (yet is beyond very dark as it denounces the need for acceptance of Christ to procure the blessings of the truth) was publicly humiliated world wide as he rose in word to challenge the good side. Heavenly Father interjected and through him down – discrediting all of his work that he has been performing for 14 years. You are right about July though. While the process began in February, the next step begins in July. Where the writings begin to be fully formatted, to be released in December of 2012. This is the good work explaining what is happening over the course of next 7 years. It will be released by mass media. It will appear dark only to satisfy the need to be mass produced, as the media is controlled by the adversarial system. It is the process of interjecting the light using the system that is wide spread. Yes, Heavenly is that intelligent. 😉 Yet, pure eyes seeing only good will see the truth in it, and will rejoice. Keep the rejoicing within!!! It is purely for informational purpose, regarding the last part of this dispensation and what is happening.

    It is not the last set of writings. That will be delivered by Christ (it is not written by Him though) in the third dispensation – or rather you will know him as Michael.

    So, you are right. July 2009 is when the writings of both sides begin in order to speak to the masses.

    Kay… Work to do. Just needed you to know! And it is all I can say. I can’t give details. Been ordered not to. WIsh I could… but… have to do what is right.

    love always

  21. […] “Behold the Time has Fully Come” […]

  22. I’ve read your stuff and the stuff of others who dissagree with certain ideas and have formulated different aspects of end time events , and this I am convinced of….When the Heavenly cast of characters come from behind the Veil, EVERYONE of you will recognize thier voices as the TRUE Messengers of God, regarless of who they really turn out to be.

    I feel such a strong resonating Spirit of Truth to the writings of all in this small group.

    Truth I am sure, lies within the amalgamated essence of what this group represents. It’s very apparent…

  23. Rob

    This particular forum has a very diverse group of participants.

    It would be difficult to group all of them into one category of belief.

    I suspect that many, if not most don’t necessarily agree with the three watches doctrine or the returning of previously ordained servants from behind the veil. Some probably feel that all of the priesthood keys necessary to see us to the finish line are already hear.

    Any comments you have for me specifically, other than replies to any articles i post on this site as a guest writer, should be addressed to the three watches blog.

    It was fun speaking with you the other day and hearing about some of you beliefs regarding the signs in the stars.

    Watcher

  24. Good comments.

  25. My comment is made in reference to Liahona’s comment on May 22, 09.

    “Three’s a Charm”. This third secret visit by the Lord, I’m Guessing, is the one to establish His Final Servant who is to eventually establish the Lord’s kingdom when the Lord says it’s time, after first establishing His Church 2,000 years ago and then Restoring it.

    It becomes obvious that if the Staus Quo must be interupted to accomplish this, that the Man the Lord will Appoint for this purpose is Not part of the currently established Reign of Kings or anyone of Pioneer Stock. Not that the “Pioneer Stock” are necessarily flawed, but the need for Real Change always makes it’s appearance from “Outside The Box”.

    The Third Secret Vist from the Lord, I certainly Suspect, has already occured. Much time would be needed for this “Man to come” , to be schooled & trained by God.

    It would be no simple matter of just pulling an unprepared, unsuspecting guy from the crowed and say….”Go do it”. This would be the REASON for that third and final visit by the Lord. Much in the Same way He appeared to Joseph Smith and prepared him.

    The only difference being, that the Church has already been Restored through Joseph and it would take SOME time for a New Comer to Mormonism to absorbe all that he would need to understand about it’s Founding & the current conditions of the Lord’s Church and what caused it, in order to understand exactly what it is the Lord intends to do about it and How it’s to be done.

    Now I would Guess that the Lord must have imparted certain Visions of understanding to this Man when visited by the Lord. Joseph wasn’t intially given much in the way of Visions concerning what was to be DONE to establish the “CHURCH” because the “Church” was AT HAND. He only primarily needed first hand Instructions to do that.

    But for a Man who would be called to oneday Clean Up what needed to be Cleaned, and to begin building the “Kingdom” on the Foundation laid by Joseph, I suppose VISIONS of the Future in regard to this Kingdom, would be in order for this Man to have an understanding of the “End Play” and be able to work his way toward that Goal given to him by God.

    And like I said, quite a bit of time to get to know How the Foundation was laid and what Bad Contractors have done to prevent the “WALLS” of the Kindom from being errected, would be needed, in order to understand the SCOPE of the Job at Hand.

    Given the Signs that have recently arrisen in our Nation & World, I would say that the appearance of this Man isn’t too far off….Certainly before this coming Presidential election in 2012. He’s probably some “Baby Boomer” who has ONE Hand in the Past and ONE Hand in the Future & is capable of bringing the TWO Together. And you Baby Boomers know what I mean by this. I would assume just about ALL of the 144,000 would be selected from this Generation of Baby Boomers who are capable of knowing the Past as Well as the Future and bringing the TWO Together.

  26. Everyone here is very astute at analyzing signs. And maybe it’s the “Analyzing” asspect of that, that is taking some of you off on tangents. Rather than Over Analyzing what God has shown us, try taking a step Backward and just take another “simple” look at the WHOLE Picture, as opposed to being solely focused on the piecies and Attempting to make a Picture of them. Some are geting lost in the Details.

    I Love my friends who are Engineers, but having been with them and trying to get some simple little thing done that doesn’t require a box full of Blue Prints or numerous meetings to determine the best approach to doing something , is sort of what it’s like reading some of these comments.

    I really enjoy many writings and comments I see on this post. People here are really putting Love & Effort into understanding what this thing is all about.

    But in the End, or should I say the New Begining, we’ll probably find that it’s The “Joe The Plumber” of Mormomism, who is the Man for the Job of deciphering the correct paradigmns the Lord has in Mind.


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