Other prophets and their scriptures


Over the years I have come across an assortment of people claiming to be prophets, translate ancient records, etc., who are not part of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I find the whole of it to be a fulfillment of the prophecies of the holy prophets:

True Prophets

And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (Joel 2: 28 )

False Prophets

And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. (Matt. 24: 11)

And many false prophets shall arise, and shall deceive many; (JS—M 1: 9)

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matt. 24: 24)

For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. (Mark 13: 22)

For in those days there shall also arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect, who are the elect according to the covenant. (JS—M 1: 22)

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. (2 Pet. 2: 1)

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. (1 Jn. 4: 1)

And liars and hypocrites shall be proved by them, and they who are not apostles and prophets shall be known. (D&C 64: 39)

If you know of people who have or are claiming to be prophets, see visions, have angelic ministrations, translate ancient records and in general, lead the people, please leave a comment. Here’s what I’ve found:

  • http://www.eritrean-n-d-p.com/ (courtesy of the wayback machine)
    This is an Eritrean man who claims he is a prophet receiving revelation from God and that the Book of Mormon is actually African in origin and was translated from Sabean inscriptions.
  • http://www.churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints.org/
    This is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, otherwise known as the Strangites, followers of James J. Strang, who claimed he was the next prophet after Joseph Smith and who had angelic ministrations and translated an ancient record called The Book of the Law of the Lord. Strang also claimed to have received revelations from God.
  • http://www.sealedportion.com/ (courtesy of the wayback machine)
    This is the official web site of The Sealed Portion of the Brother of Jared, a two volume set of scriptures that is claimed to have been interpreted using another Urim and Thummim. They claim that angelic visitation took place and further revelations were received.
  • http://www.helpingmormons.org/TLC_Manti/index.html (courtesy of the wayback machine)
    This is the official web site of The True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days whose founder is James D. Harmston, a man who claims to be a prophet and to have had the ministration of angels and revelations.
  • http://www.cofchrist.org/
    The official web site of the Community of Christ, which used to be the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They claim to have a prophet and additional revelations.
  • http://wovoca.com/prophecy-mormon-dream-mine.htm (courtesy of the way back machine)
    This is the story of John Hyrum Koyle who claimed to have had a dream in which the angel Moroni showed him an ancient Nephite hoard of gold he called the Relief Mine, more commonly referred to as the Dream Mine. He also claimed to receive revelations and made prophecies.
  • http://www.artbulla.com/
    The official web site of Art Bulla who claims to be the Root of Jesse mentioned in Isaiah 11 and the One Mighty and Strong mentioned in the Doctrine and Covenants. He claims to have received additional revelations for the gathering of the saints to Zion.
  • http://thelatterdaychurchofchrist.blogspot.com/
    The current web site (blog) of the Latter Day Church of Christ. They have a prophet, Matthew Gill, who claims to have received revelations and to have translated a new book of scripture of ancient people who lived in the British Isles, received from an angel, known as the Book of Jeraneck.
  • http://mentinah.com/
    These are the Nemenhah Records known as the Mentinah Archives. The Indians who hold onto these ancient records are just now releasing translations of them. They make the claim that they asked Brigham Young and other prophets to translate them but were told, essentially, that there was no Urim and Thummim (for translation of ancient records) in the church any longer and that they must wait, so, after waiting many years, they have now decided to do it themselves.

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18 Comments

  1. If you know of people who have or are claiming to be prophets, see visions, have angelic ministrations, translate ancient records…

    What’s wrong with prophecy, visions, and angelic ministrations? Translating ancient records sounds pretty far-fetched, though not entirely out of the question, but what about the other three? As long as the person claims no authority over others…

  2. I can’t speak for the other records but after reading more of the Mentinah Archives I am accepting the idea that these are a real history of the Native Americans in Utah and elsewhere. One thing I am holding on to is that I created my map before I read these Archives and it is too much of a coincidence that my map matches to the migrations of the Nephite people. I have also found some connections with ancient languages that is unrelated to each other. The Nemenhah will always claim these records are family records not scriptures like we have. I have been told that Cloudpiler, one of the translaters, has received the worst persecutions from LDS members than anyone else. I have become friends with the publisher and we have been writing e-mails. He is very sincere in his beliefs and he is not pushing me to believe these records are true. It is only by the Holy Spirit that you will know what is true or not. Please visit my site http://www.platesofmormon.wordpress.com. I have been posting some texts from the archives and a brief thought on the passage.

  3. http://www.lds.org
    This is the official website of a group called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Their founder, Joseph Smith, claimed to have visions of deity and angels, and claimed to restore the New Testament church to the earth. In fact, his claims sound a lot like some of the other groups you mention above.

  4. I, also, am of the opinion that these Nemenhah Records shall be proven highly valuable as a genealogy tool. Also, because of the sensitive manner of the Spirit, where these records are correlating to the Book of Mormon, I feel that we may find these records can only help to convert the Lamanite tribes and their descendants unto the “fullness of the holy gospel.” Praise unto Jesus the Christ. Amen.

  5. I would like to see an example of the original script

  6. The Second Book of Commandments
    http://www.2bc.info/onias/Home.html

  7. the sealed portion site and the wovoca site both are down and have to be accessed with the wayback machine. maybe update the links for the less technologically savy

  8. i would include the urantia book in the list as well

  9. I’ve updated those links to point to the way back machine. Thanks for the tip.

  10. I enjoyed the Mentinah Archives. There is a lot of great stuff in there. But Since I believe the events of the Book of Mormon happened in North America the history presented in the Archives does not match. Also the Nemenhah band is not an actual Native American tribe but modern people who have adopted Native American philosophy.

    I also enjoyed Mathew Gil’s book. It was poorly written and the names were confusing, but I still enjoyed it.

  11. The Kolbrin

    “The Kolbrin is a collection of ancient manuscripts said to have been salvaged from the Glastonbury Abbey arson in 1184. The Kolbrin is also said to have had a connection to Jesus, historically through his Great-Uncle, Joseph of Arimathea. This Culdian Trust version of The Kolbrin was publically disclosed online by Professor James M. McCanney, M.S. Chapters from The Kolbrin are made available on this website only with direct approval from the Culdian Trust.”

    http://thekolbrin.com/

  12. I recently found this record. It’s called the Ang Aklatan. https://angaklatan.wordpress.com/ I’m wondering what you gentlemen here think about it. Based on what I’ve read so far I believe it is genuine.

  13. If the plates the record was translated from were/are not in pristine condition, the record is not holy writ, but is another deception of the devil.

  14. On June 22, 1986 I was visiting my family in Dagupan. I had taken some time to walk to the beach to view the ocean I had missed so much. While walking along the beach I suddenly stopped and I saw a vision. In the vision I saw a cave with rocks covering the entrance. Then I saw the inside of the cave and a there was a large stone with a strange object on top. It looked like a stack of rusted copper plates.

    The plates were rusted in his vision. Were they rusted or weathered in appearance when he got them and translated them? If so, the record is bogus.

  15. The plates were three in number, small, about 1 1/2 inches by 2 1/2 inches; they were not polished very smooth before engraving, from appearance.

    That’s a description of the Voree plates that James Strang translated. Everything that contained holy writ, made anciently by prophets and holy men, was done in the most beautiful manner possible, to distinguish it from the mundane.

  16. The Ang Aklatan is not genuine. Its a book subtly mixing scripture with modern themes of contention that former members commonly bring up about the Church, like race, equality, polygamy, etc. It is kind of a new level of low for anti-Mormon material. Chapter 5 in the Book of Ruman concerning the twenty four elders is also in conflict with D&C 77:5.

  17. I have been watching the new Cosmos series and could not help but think that Giordano Bruno was a prophet. He had a vision of the infinite nature of creation, and after this vision dedicated himself to spreading what he assumed would be good and welcome news. He was rejected by the existing ecclesiastical authorities everywhere he went, condemned of heresy, and refused to deny his experience despite years of imprisonment and torture. I confess I did not know much of his story, and found it fascinating.

  18. I watched the the thing about Giordano Bruno on Cosmos quite recently and I was thinking the same thing as I watched it. Amazing stuff. Bruno is definitely someone I want to meet eventually so I can get the full story.


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