Seeking the Good of Others


Meat Sacrificed to Idols:

One of the issues in the first-century church that was addressed in writing by Paul concerned meat that had been sacrificed to idols.  Debates over what to eat might seem strange within a church established by a man who said:

Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

However, as formerly pagan/Roman converts began joining congregations of the church of Jesus Christ, an issue arose concerning the eating of meat.

Pleasing the Romans gods thru animal sacrifice resulted in temples having more meat than their priests and priestesses could eat.  So, as a source of income, the temples would sell the extra meat to vendors — who would in turn sell that meat in the marketplace for general consumption.  Thus, it was common for meat sold in the marketplace to have been previously consecrated as a sacrifice to a Roman god.  The Jews stayed away from such meat because they were wary of the chances encountering the “unclean” food-handling practices and they believed that to partake of consecrated meat was to give second-hand approval of idol worship.  The Gentiles did not believe that meat could be tainted by a sacrifice they did not participate in.  Both parties brought these preconceived cultural views on the subject with them into the church of Jesus Christ — thereby making the matter a point of contention within the church.

The council recorded in Acts 15 urged Gentile converts to abstain from meat sacrificed to idols.  In essence, the council sought to assure that at the next church sacramental meal a formerly-Jewish believer could eat meat he was served with confidence — knowing it had never been part of a sacrificial cow, and a formerly-Roman believer could not be accused of participating in idol worship.

Applying the Matter to Ourselves:

Whenever I read Paul’s writings on the subject of members of the church of Jesus Christ eating meat that had was considered “unclean” by some — I can’t help but think of the current LDS views on things like meat, caffeinated drinks, beer, and wine.  So last week, I read thru 1 Corinthians 8-10, imagining that Paul was writing to church members today on the subject of the Word of Wisdom.

Paul’s Law of Offense = Seek the good of others instead of being concerned for your own good:

The following was taken from 1 Corinthians 8-10.

Some people might think that all things are lawful for them because of justification by faith or because of all the knowledge they have on the issue.  While the freedom in Christ or the knowledge you obtain may make you feel important, it is love that strengthens the church of God.  If you claim to know all the answers, then you don’t really know very much.  However, the person who loves God – the same is known by Him.

Whether or not everything is lawful for you – not everything is expedient or constructive.

You may be able to consume any food or drink without raising questions of moral conscience within yourself because you understand that everything from the earth comes from the Lord.  Why should your freedom be limited by what someone else thinks?  If you are capable of enjoying all things that come from God, then why should you be condemned for it?  We can’t win God’s approval by what we eat – you won’t lose anything if you abstain, and you won’t gain anything if you partake.  So whether you eat or drink – whatever you do – do it all to glorify God.

However, not all believers understand this.  Some are accustomed to thinking that words of wisdom concerning diet are commandments – and their weak consciences will be offended.

Should a non-member ask you over to his or her house, by all means go if you want to and eat whatever is offered to you, out of respect for their hospitality.  But then should a member there point out that the food or drink served ought to be considered morally objectionable to you because of your religion – don’t consume it out of consideration for the one who told you.  For you must be careful that your freedom doesn’t cause another of a weaker conscience to stumble.

If your superior knowledge on a subject were to encourage a believer to do something they believe is wrong, then you would be sinning against Christ because he died for that person too.

If my dietary choices would cause another believer to sin, then may I never break the “commandments” outlined in any words of wisdom concerning diet so long as I live.  I do not desire another believer to stumble.  Don’t give offense to Jews, Gentiles, or the church of God.  Try to please everyone in what you do.  Don’t just do what is best for yourself – do what is best for others, so that many may be saved.

When you are with those who are weak, you should share their weakness because you have a desire to bring the weak to Christ.  It is best to try and find common ground with people, doing everything you can that you might save some.

Even though you are a free person, with no earthly slave master, you must become a servant to all people to bring them to Christ.  When you are with Jews, live like a Jew to bring them to Christ.  When you are with members who strictly adhere to Church™ teachings, live under that law – even though you are not subject to that law, do so in order to bring Christ to them.  When you are with Gentiles who are without the law, then also live apart from that law for the purpose of bringing them to Christ.  But you must not ignore the law of God – always obey the law of Christ.

Questions:

  • Is my characterization of Paul’s teaching on offense accurate?
  • What lessons can be drawn from his teaching?
  • Is my connection of his teaching on eating pagan meat with the Word of Wisdom™ fair?
  • Is this teaching consistent with the rest of the Scriptures?
  • How can we balance Paul’s law of offense with spicing up your church experience, rebelling against body modesty, or cheerfully doing all things?

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The following are articles arranged by topic or series.

Anarchism/Anarchy (38 Total)

Anarchism

Biblical Anarchism

Book of Mormon Anarchy

Stateless in Somalia: How Clannish Anarchy Works

Why voting is so important to the State

Free-church vs. state-church

The Mormon Worker and the LDS Anarchy Blog: The hand of the Lord or just a coincidence?

1930’s Spanish Anarchy

What the Lord has said about the Constitution

Anarchy does not require perfect people

LDS make the best anarchists

Is anarchism compatible with D&C 134?

Abraham Lincoln

The Anarchy of Alma

300 + years of Nephite anarchy

The prophetic counsel against having kings (rulers)

A basic right denied

Lakota independence—prophecy starting to be fulfilled?

The tribal nature of the gospel

Is Molly right?

The role of agency in political systems

The anarchic laws of D&C 98

My take on the FLDS raid

How the Lord will clean his church: a possible scenario

How I get out of jury duty

The dissolution of the corporate LDS Church via “gay marriage”

Anarchy in action: congregational nullification

Anarchy in Education

If voting could change things, it would be illegal

The Root Cause of the Current Financial (Monetary) Crisis and Its Solution

Introducing a new bartering currency—the first coin: 1/2 Troy oz pure silver .999 fine

Bartering Currency Pictures

A sign of the times?

(No Uncle) S.A.M.M.s

Establishing the tribes of Israel: the real reason for plural marriage

Let Us Unite Our Efforts to Establish Gift Societies Based Upon Tribal Anarchism

Spicing up your church experience

Anarchy in action: sending 2-cent letters and 1-cent postcards

Arm of the Flesh (3 Total)

How the scriptural “helps” brainwash you

Follow the leader: satanic in nature?

The Strength of the Lord

The Bill of Rights (4 Total)

What the Lord has said about the Constitution

Talking to myself

It is a SIN to infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms

Ideas for fighting gun rights infringement

Blog Notes (19 Total)

Why I started this blog

A small break

No, I haven’t abandoned the blog…

Thanks to Thailer

LDS Anarchy blog listed as Best Radically Faithful Blog by SLWeekly.com

Introducing a new contributor

Complete List of Articles authored by LDS Anarchist

what4anarchy’s in charge

Introducing yet another new contributor

50,000 hits and LDS Anarchy stats

LDS Anarchy Blog Readership Poll

Two voices crying in the wilderness (on the Internet)

The Encyclopædia Britannica, 11th Edition (1910-1911)

Happy 3rd Birthday, LDS Anarchy Blog!

LDS Anarchy Chat Room

Vigilant Citizen web site link added to the blog

Happy 5th Birthday, LDS Anarchy Blog!

WISTB, part two: because the By Common Consent blog banned the LDS Anarchist

2012 in review

Character Education (2 Total)

If you could read only 3 chapters or sections…

The Words of Jehovah-Saves Anointed-One, Spoken During His Nephite Ministry: DAY ONE — Private

Chastity (7 Total)

The Return of Polygamy

Why the long process?

The many definitions of adultery

Does legalized, same-sex “marriage” break the law of chastity?

The Law of Chastity: What It Is and What It Isn’t

“David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me”

Marriage without a marriage license is ordained of God

Children (3 Total)

CAP Reports

Every one of us had a perfect, wonderful and happy childhood

Evil speaking of the Lord’s anointed

Circumcision (1 Total)

Why do LDS still circumcise their boys?

Common Consent (8 Total)

Is our procedure for sustaining a rubber stamp?

Power of the Law of Common Consent

Anarchy in action: congregational nullification

Apathy is not a problem, it’s a symptom and a solution

The voice of the people signifies a majority

We are not doing our business by the voice of the people

How to Easily Repeal the Federal Income Tax

Join the Movement to Repeal the Federal Income Tax in 30 days

Current Events (1 Total)

America, let the results of this shooting be a rush to HOMESCHOOL, not GUN CONTROL!

Deep Waters (5 Total)

Deep Waters: Disclaimer

Deep Waters: How many wives? How many husbands?

Deep Waters: What would have happened if Lucifer had won the vote?

Deep Waters: Lehi’s model of the universe

Deep Waters: Creatio ex nihilo, creatio ex materia and creatio ex deo are all true doctrines

The Faith of God (13 Total)

The faith of God, part one

The faith of God, part two

The faith of God, part three

The faith of God, part four: the word of God

The faith of God, part five: belief

The faith of God, part six: the Holy Spirit

The faith of God, part seven: prayer and fasting

The faith of God, part eight: the Atonement is the word

The faith of God, part nine: The ingredients of faith

The faith of God, part ten: The relationship of faith to agency (power)

The faith of God, part eleven: Why knowledge doesn’t save

The faith of God, part twelve: Truth

The faith of God, part thirteen: How charity fits in

This series is not finished, yet.

Fasting (2 Total)

Extended fasting: a cure for all spiritual AND PHYSICAL ailments

My extended fast journal

Gifts of the Spirit (5 Total)

The gift of tongues (part one)

The gift of tongues (part two): a Book of Mormon account

The gift of tongues (part three): tongues and administrations

What best gifts do you have?

The seeds of the powers of godliness

The Gospel-based, Egalitarian, Multihusband-Multiwife, Tribal Anarchy Model (4 Total)

GEMTAM Book Collaboration

Abrahamic Concubinage as an Inter-Tribal Function

GEMTAM (Chapter 3) Multihusband-Multiwife

Sperm Sorting Function

Guest Contributor (5 Total)

The Apostasy of the LDS Church by Curtis R. Porritt

Why (Heavenly) Father is an Anarchist by Jahnihah Wrede

What The Priesthood Is by Jahnihah Wrede

Congruence vs. Obedience by Jahnihah Wrede

Agency: The Single Principle of a Continuous War by Jahnihah Wrede

Holy Ghost (1 Total)

The Holy Ghost is a Woman

Jesus Christ (5 Total)

The Compassionate Empathy Model of the Atonement

How the atonement of Jesus Christ solves the “victim” problem

What did Jesus Christ look like?

“…and the labor which they had to perform was to look…”

| they must suffer | even as i |

John the Baptist (2 Total)

Was John the Baptist on Dope?

So John the Baptist Smoked Pot, What of It?

Joseph Smith (4 Total)

Joseph Smith’s Daguerreotype—An Appeal for Help

Romans 13: 1-7 and Joseph Smith

Breaking News: Joseph Smith’s Daguerrotype is scanned and uploaded

What if…the Lord brought the Prophet Joseph Smith back from the dead to lead the church?

Modesty (1 Total)

Body modesty is not a principle of the gospel

Patriarchal Blessings (1 Total)

The secrecy of patriarchal blessings

Plasma Cosmology (1 Total)

Russian Chelyabinsk meteor-to-ground connections

Plasma Theology (15 Total)

There is no conflict between science and religion

The sun “borrows” its light and the planets or stars were “fixed”

The Noachian Flood, Part One: The Role of Plasma

The Noachian Flood, Part Two: Electrically Manufacturing OH

The Noachian Flood, Part Three: Oceans above, below and within

The plasma aspects of the First Vision and Moroni’s visit

Introducing another LDS plasma theologue

Special Comet Holmes James M. McCanney Broadcast

The hollow earth theory, the plasma model and Mormon theology

Monson and his constipated physics redux; or, how electric gravity makes hollow earthers happy

Plasma Rods: A Theoretical Concept

Keep your eye on the planets!

The Parable of the Redemption of Zion (D&C 101: 43-62), Take Two: a Purely Planetary/Plasma Interpretation

Teachings on hell and the spirit world

The Baptism of Fire

Various recent insights

Prayer (2 Total)

New thoughts on prayer

Various recent insights

Preaching the Gospel (4 Total)

The real meaning of the promise in Moroni 10: 3-5

The Law of the Harvest: a reality check

The role of angels in Nephite preaching

The Real Missionary Discussions

Pride (4 Total)

The Title of Insufferable, Self-Righteous Prigs

Intellectuals

I am wary of the priestcraft among us

Selections from the Book of Lamans

“Because it hardens the heart.”

Priesthood (12 Total)

Discharging Priesthood Duties

The oath and covenant of the priesthood

Let the Aaronic Priesthood Do Home Teaching and Let the Elders Administer the Sacrament

“It has always been given to the elders of my church from the beginning, and always shall be, to conduct all meetings.”

The Priesthood

An alternate view of the keys

Tribal worship services

Priesthood Offices in a Tribal Setting

“Every elder, priest, teacher or deacon is to be ordained according to the gifts…of God unto him.”

Who is supposed to take the lead of meetings?

More church anarchy: autonomous quorums

The orders of the priesthood

Privacy (2 Total)

Anonymity, encryption and privacy on the net

Confidential annotations on membership records

Prophecy (6 Total)

Apprising In Verse — A Short Poem

Mormonism as the coming state religion and other crazy thoughts

The Parable of the Redemption of Zion (D&C 101: 43-62): a Series of FUTURE (not Past) Events

The Book of Mormon Is a Litmus Test

Do we really need a standing army?

The daughters of Zion shall rule over the people of the Lord

Prophets (3 Total)

Poll: Who is the most prophetic?

Gordon B. Hinckley’s scripturally-based legacy

Other prophets and their scriptures

Relationships (4 Total)

To LDS women: beware of kissing

Slim pickings is not the problem with the single adult program: FAT women are

Unlicensed marriages and what the Brethren can do about them

The nature of authority: the Lord’s stewardship law

Repentance (4 Total)

Daily repentance

Are we commanded to confess to ecclesiastical authorities without witnesses?

The law governing confession

How to receive what you ask for

Scriptural Discussions (16 Total)

Scriptural Discussion #1: Priesthood Ordinations—By The Power Of The Holy Ghost

Scriptural Discussion #2: Scriptures—Men To Be Judged By

Scriptural Discussion #3: Sexual Sin—Among Members/Among Investigators

Scriptural Discussion #4: Sick—Faithless Members/Faithful Saints

Scriptural Discussion #5: Teachers—Must Be Sanctified

Scriptural Discussion #6: Tribulation Upon Church

Scriptural Discussion #7: Afflictions—Can Be Swallowed Up In Joy Of Christ

Scriptural Discussion #8: Anarchism—Approved And Prophesied

Scriptural Discussion #9: Equality

Scriptural Discussion #10: Faith—Living By, Better Than Living By Knowledge

Scriptural Discussion #11: Gifts And Power Of The Spirit—Defined As Good Works

Scriptural Discussion #12: War—To Be Renounced

Scriptural Discussion #13: Anger And Insults—Are Forbidden

Scriptural Discussion #14: Sacramental Prayers—Church Should Be Kneeling During

Scriptural Discussion #15: Abortion

Scriptural Discussion #16: David and Solomon

Scriptural Expositions (17 Total)

What does the phrase “only true and living church” mean?

The practice of hiding up treasures unto the Lord

The End of the State of Israel

3 Nephi 21, expounded

D&C 87, expounded

Why I Believe the Plates of Brass Are Next

Damnation

There are no “higher” or “lower” laws; there are only expedient laws

“And they understood me not, for they supposed”

Manasseh’s future leadership role

“And thus, with the sword…”

Lehi’s Josephite Prophecy

The real Jonah: holy prophet and type of Christ

Lehi’s Trek to China and North America

The Two Authors of the Book of Abraham

Talking to myself

1 Nephi 13 & 14 commentary, using CTC’s view

Scripture Translations (4 Total)

Is the King James Version still the best?

The Anarchist Version (TAV) of the Scriptures

TAV Comments

Isaiah Explained: Isaiah Institute Translation with audio commentary by Avraham Gileadi

Secret Combinations (5 Total)

Are there Clergy Response Teams in the LDS church?

Is the topic of “secret combinations” taboo in the LDS church?

“And Thus They Did Obtain the Sole Management of the Government”

Opening old wounds

Mormon.org profiles: enhanceed membership tracking?

Stan Tenen (2 Total)

Bringing Stan Tenen and The Meru Foundation to the Attention of all LDS [alternate title: Doing what4anarchy's Job]

A note from Stan Tenen

Tithes and Offerings (5 Total)

Charitable gifts: investments of earthly or heavenly benefit?

The law of tithing (part one)

The law of tithing (part two)

The law of tithing (part three)

The law of tithing (part four)

Unity (3 Total)

The Split-Brain Model of the Gospel

Wives, follow your husbands! – Patriarchy, androcracy and the egalitarian tribe

Let them grow together

War (1 Total)

The divine pattern of citizen militias

Word of Wisdom (4 Total)

The interpolation of a footnote

Strong drinks, mild drinks, hot drinks, wine, etc.

What the Word of Wisdom says and what it doesn’t say

The 2013 edition of the scriptures has unintentionally added new scripture to the canon

Zion (2 Total)

The LDS weep not for Zion

King Noah and the Redemption of Zion

The following are the rest of my published articles, 6 in total, listed chronologically.

Is the church under attack?

Liberty Dollar Alert #29

The Hailstorm Soon Cometh, pre-post

All About Christmas

The doctrine of destruction

“Why do you call me a Christian when you believe in a Restoration?”

Scriptural Discussion #15: Abortion


ABORTION

The Lord said, “Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. Thou shalt not steal; neither commit adultery, nor kill, nor do anything like unto it.” (D&C 59: 6)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #16 DAVID AND SOLOMON

Previous Scriptural Discussion: #14 SACRAMENTAL PRAYERS—CHURCH SHOULD BE KNEELING DURING

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Scriptural Discussion #1: Priesthood Ordinations—By The Power Of The Holy Ghost


PRIESTHOOD ORDINATIONS—BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST

Moroni said, “And after this manner did they ordain priests and teachers, according to the gifts and callings of God unto men; and they ordained them by the power of the Holy Ghost, which was in them.” (Moroni 3: 4)

The Lord said, “And, behold, you are they who are ordained of me to ordain priests and teachers; to declare my gospel, according to the power of the Holy Ghost which is in you, and according to the callings and gifts of God unto men;” (D&C 18: 32)

The Lord said, “Every elder, priest, teacher, or deacon is to be ordained according to the gifts and callings of God unto him; and he is to be ordained by the power of the Holy Ghost, which is in the one who ordains him.” (D&C 20: 60)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #2 SCRIPTURES—MEN TO BE JUDGED BY

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Scriptural Discussion #14: Sacramental Prayers—Church Should Be Kneeling During


SACRAMENTAL PRAYERS—CHURCH SHOULD BE KNEELING DURING

Moroni said, “And they did kneel down with the church, and pray to the Father in the name of Christ, saying:” (Moroni 4: 2)

The Lord said, “And the elder or priest shall administer it; and after this manner shall he administer it—he shall kneel with the church and call upon the Father in solemn prayer, saying:” (D&C 20: 76)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #15 ABORTION

Previous Scriptural Discussion: #13 ANGER AND INSULTS—ARE FORBIDDEN

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Scriptural Discussion #13: Anger And Insults—Are Forbidden


ANGER AND INSULTS—ARE FORBIDDEN

Jesus said, “But I say unto you, that whosoever is angry with his brother shall be in danger of his judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.” (3 Nephi 12:22)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #14 SACRAMENTAL PRAYERS—CHURCH SHOULD BE KNEELING DURING

Previous Scriptural Discussion: #12 WAR—TO BE RENOUNCED

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Scriptural Discussion #12: War—To Be Renounced


WAR—TO BE RENOUNCED

The Lord said, “Therefore, renounce war and proclaim peace, and seek diligently to turn the hearts of the children to their fathers, and the hearts of the fathers to the children;” (D&C 98: 16)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #13 ANGER AND INSULTS—ARE FORBIDDEN

Previous Scriptural Discussion: #11 GIFTS AND POWERS OF THE SPIRIT—DEFINED AS GOOD WORKS

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Scriptural Discussion #11: Gifts And Power Of The Spirit—Defined As Good Works


GIFTS AND POWER OF THE SPIRIT—DEFINED AS GOOD WORKS

Moroni said, “And now I speak unto all the ends of the earth—that if the day cometh that the power and gifts of God shall be done away among you, it shall be because of unbelief. And wo be unto the children of men if this be the case; for there shall be none that doeth good among you, no not one. For if there be one among you that doeth good, he shall work by the power and gifts of God.” (Moroni 10: 24-25)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #12 WAR—TO BE RENOUNCED

Previous Scriptural Discussion: #10 FAITH—LIVING BY, BETTER THAN LIVING BY KNOWLEDGE

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Scriptural Discussion #9: Equality


EQUALITY

The Lord said, “That you may be equal in the bonds of heavenly things, yea, and earthly things also, for the obtaining of heavenly things. For if ye are not equal in earthly things ye cannot be equal in obtaining heavenly things;” (D&C 78: 5-6)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #10 FAITH—LIVING BY, BETTER THAN LIVING BY KNOWLEDGE

Previous Scriptural Discussion: #8 ANARCHISM—APPROVED AND PROPHESIED

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Scriptural Discussion #8: Anarchism—Approved And Prophesied


ANARCHISM—APPROVED AND PROPHESIED

The Lord said, “Wherefore, hear my voice and follow me, and you shall be a free people, and ye shall have no laws but my laws when I come, for I am your lawgiver, and what can stay my hand?” (D&C 38: 22)

Discuss.

Next Scriptural Discussion: #9 EQUALITY

Previous Scriptural Discussion: #7 AFFLICTIONS—CAN BE SWALLOWED UP IN JOY OF CHRIST

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